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Double indirect Shaco Nerf : Shaco state Discussion & Questions.

Naywo··6 votes·804 views
Quick Gameplay Thoughts: February 16

Good morning, everyone. This is not a post to complain about, I just wanted to know more about the future of my favourite champion: Shaco

Shaco is viable in Jungle thanks to the item 3147 . Indeed the item 3077 rush, absolutely necessary for farm, is delaying Shaco's power spike. As a result, this champion is no longer an early champion (Moreover since the Q nerf/rework) However, thanks to the item 3147 it wasn't so impactfull because once the object was completed (around 15-18 minutes of play) Shaco knew a real power spike.

During the next two patches, 2 things will affect Shaco

  • The nerf of the item 3147
  • The nerve of explosive plants (which will no longer allow Shaco to put boxes on it to make Blue > Wolf very quickly) This nerve is a Nerve of jungles in general. The invades of Shaco will also be affected, being more risky without this way of escape.

Since Shaco no longer has a Scale on his Q and the state of his E is quite in a bad spot here is my question:

Is Shaco expected to get a slight rebalancing following the item 3147 Nerf? Or, in view of its future Rework it will remain unchanged until this date?

Thank you for your time,

Naywo.

13 Comments

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

Looking him up.... these indirect nerfs actually seem kinda deserved. He is pretty strong right now, he can use some tuning down.

Cowgirl Ed1 votes

Shaco is a joke lol

Chembaron Yamada2 votes

All I got is the data I see here and it clearly tells that Shaco is not a joke, but really strong rn.

Iasam6 votes

Shaco is pretty hard to win with in higher tiers. Only reason its high win rate is cuz most people who play him one trick him.

This fucking duskblade nerf is bullshit as fuck absolutely fucking bullshit. Fucking adc can just 1v1 assassins in the late game with full build and all. That is some fucking shithole shit from riot balance team spewing out some more shit balancing just so ornn and twitch can be the only viable champs in the game.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

5,5% pickrate doesn't really scream "onetricks only" for me. Above 53% winrate average, mains have 58%. And that is in high elo.

I don't think your excuses for him really apply here.

Iasam2 votes

Go play shaco for 10 games on your d3 account and come talk to me about how freelo it is. I mean imagine a champ that actually takes a lot of skill to be played well be viable in diamond+.

Go spam sion and kick minions around for 10 mana and 1/4 health people and take 0 damage and have one of the games best escape/initiation/cc and tell me what needs nerfed lol. That champ literally takes 0 brain and it shows from the stupid fucks who play him. But here you are bitching about a single target assassin that goes in and gets turned into a rabbit by lulu and one shot by tristana.

Give ornn a try too. Its not like its the same thing as malphite but actually a lane bully and has 0 cd ult with a hit box big as half a lane, buffs his whole team with brittle and gives team better items, and is fucking unkillable. Other than that, hes same thing as malphite the outdated trash champ.

Chembaron Yamada3 votes

Don't know what Sion has to do with that, but I stated in a thread about him that he is overtuned and should receive nerfs as well.

And I don't think that these indirect nerfs to Shaco are going to make him unviable. If so, they can still buff him again in this case.

I get that you are a dedicated Shaco main and want your champion as strong as possible, but that's how I see the matter.

Trackpad Shaco1 votes

He is definitely a strong pick at lower elos, because people have no clue how to play against stealth champs, let alone decent assassins. once you get within the d2-masters elo, its ridiculously hard to win because he's outclassed by so many other junglers that either do his job better or are no-brained tanks that can deal just as much damage by end game. Riot is very adc hypercarry- tank meta focused atm, instead of balancing the actual champions abusing duskblade, they'd rather fuck the entire class of champs.Haven't seen any balancing with adc items, even though ER-IE-Shiv is literally busted as fuck, not to mention piss cheap. Tank items? make em unkillable but dw, you got aftershock to add onto that unkillability and also let you outdmg anyone other than a hypercarry. yikes

Filthy Rank2 votes

shaco needs a passive rework to make him a real assasin and not a bruiser on hit

undesirable team1 votes

probably

DracosKasu1 votes

Duskblade nerf is well deserved for the current cost and his 2 passive. The item himself create a lot of problem in the jungle in term of balance.

If shaco became worse as a result it will be buff later so man up.

WarHero541 votes

If shaco became worse as a result it will be buff later so man up.

Hahahahah buffed that's a good one Riot's proved they don't like shaco and meddler even after the duskblade nerf said they are looking to nerf shaco so RIP

Troll The Night1 votes

Nerfing item 3147 will just bring back Bruiser Shaco ... Then Riot will say "We don't want Bruiser Shaco " so they'll nerf Bruiser Shaco ... Then Shaco will become Trash-Tier once again and they'll eventually Buff him. The history repeats itself. But tbh as a Shaco OTP I still struggle a lot to have a positive impact on a game. Basically if you loose you're early game and nobody in your team can 1v9 it's GG go next. Even tho I'm currently at around 4.00:01 KDA and over 55% WR in SoloQ I'm just in Low Platinium MMR. I've played Shaco in higher elo and let me tell you, it's really bad compared to champs like Warwick or Skarner . So Nerfing item 3147 is just a good example that Riot have absolutely no idea of what they're doing and what they're supposed to do. And I'm saying that because let's face it, it's Rito, they won't buff Shaco with this item 3147 Nerf cause their main idea with this Nerf is to indirectly Nerf Shaco . Which is, absolutely B U L L S H I T . And the only reason I'm saying that is because Rito won't do sh*t until the champ get lower than 46% winrate. Pray for OTPs Shaco .

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