New player - need help understanding match making and getting out of bronze

mountainear··2 votes·360 views

Hello All,

I started playing league about a year ago and i have really enjoyed attempting to climb in ranked more than any part of the game. I was placed in bronze 1 originally and I was pretty bad so i fell all the way to bronze 4. Eventually i climbed rather quickly back up to bronze 2 playing ziggs. Unfortunately i was constantly getting flamed for playing ziggs even though he was my highest win percentage champ. I eventually stopped playing him and the free fall began. I currently i have won just 14 of my last 41. Im really having a hard time understanding what to do to stop losing. I always do average or above average but by the time we get out of lane phase all other lanes are fed. For instance, if you look at my xayah stats and am well above average in every major statistical category, yet my win percentage is something like 15%. I understand everyone will just comment saying its not about kills and deaths, but I am not saying i should win every game, I'm just not understanding how i can statistically be losing this much. it seems like i would at least get lucky from time to time and get a win. My only thought is that it has something to do with the match making? The teams i am against always seem to have much better players then the team i am on. Maybe i just need to keep grinding and luck will eventually be on my side. it is very frustrating at this point.

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DarkRitual2 votes

Skills to improve on to help climb: Map Awareness Ward placement Rotations Build adapting Making trades Lane pressure (freezing, pushing, and bullying) Reading enemy behavior Champion Knowledge


For most of these, checking out some youtube guides and tutorials will help give a better idea on them

Map awareness Check the minimap every 10 seconds. Seriously. Focus on seeing where enemies are. If you see enemy jungler top, you can somewhat figure out how long till they get mid. You also know which side of river bush to ward. Knowing where the enemies are also makes it safer and more effective when you roam. 2 top, make it a 3v2 there, or a 3v2 in botlane.

Ward placement It seems small, but there's usually better places to put them. It varries based on the enemy team (pesky Lee Sin gank paths), but there's general guides available on youtube.

Rotations This one takes more time to learn to do properly. For example, if you bully your lane opponent out, it's often beneficial to push the wave into turret and then move to botlane to try to get a kill there. If you can't hardpush before roaming, try to get it to at least reset the wave so you're not disadvantaged when you return.

Build adapting This one is pretty simple, but still catches a lot of newer players. It mostly depends how well you handle early laning. Getting bullied hard and know it'll get worse? Build something that gives defensive stats on top of your offensive needs. Zhonyas or Abyssal Mask are examples for mages. You also don't need to build Sorc shoes every game. Sometimes Merc Treads or Ninja Tabi are the better options. Magic pen doesn't help you when you're not alive long enough to deal damage.

Making trades When your enemy walks up to kill a minion, you can often attack them or use an ability on them. They can either take the minion and gold with it, or turn to you and miss out. This is one that needs practice, and is largely dependant on champion lane matchups. If you can get damage off without taking any back consistantly, it's bullying. This can lead to easily winnable lanes, but also open you up to ganks from the enemy jungler or roaming laners.

Lane Pressure Learn how to properly freeze a minion wave, and when to do it. Freezing a wave on your side of the lane makes it harder for the enemy jungler to gank, as they have less paths to do it from without being noticed. It also lets you stay near your own turret, where it's sometimes a bit more safe. Hardpushing against someone with low waveclear lets you recall and buy, or make a roam without being punished too harshly. If the enemy can push back, you'll just lose a lot of cs to your turret. This is less relevant if your roams pay off, but it's a risk vs reward paradigm that doesn't pay off that often.

Reading enemy behavior Every player is different. But just like in poker, many players have tells. Enemy playing really passive and safe suddenly decides to appraoch the minion wave to farm? Jungler might be nearby. Zed lets you move up without him bullying you? His ignite might be back up and he's ready to all-in you.

Champion Knowledge Play everyone for a game or two, even if it's bots vs AI. It helps immensely in understanding how they work, and what their kits might be weak against, and also strong against. This helps in champion select to pick advantageous matchups, all the way to more advanced things like trying to time enemy ult cooldowns.

statelesskiller1 votes

all of these are the very basic things anyone as a player needs to climb

forfucksake im D5 and im STILL not that aware of the map AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

Vah Naboris2 votes

I think your first mistake was listening to other people tell you who and how to play when they're in the same elo matches as you. Other than that the advice from the other players in the comments is good.

Kazamaru1 votes

Yeah, that's a rough spot to be in, I believe just about every mid-laner ever hits the spot you are in at some point. There are a few things that you can do to massively affect your winrate.

#1: Mute your allies after one negative comment. If an ally flames you, literally just mute them. This has done wonders for me.

#2: When you are ahead in lane, it's really important to translate that into snowballing other lanes. So it's important to look for roaming possibilities.

#3: It's okay to tank your ranking if you are learning a new champion. Whenever I hit a climb spree(Say plat 5 to plat 2) once I hit an elo I stop just wrecking people I let myself branch out and try new things and simply get used to the new metagame. Each elo plays very differently than other ones. It's important to recognize the strengths and weaknesses of teams in your elo.

#4: Have 1-3 champions you love. It's very important to have a thin champion pool that you are very good at playing that resonate with your playstyle and that are decent in the metagame.

Here are some general macro tips:

Understand how team compositions affect the way the game plays out and where each team has strengths and weaknesses.

Use wards.(That means both placing AND looking when champions walk by. Also to help your teammates literally ping on the map everytime you see an enemy champion with anyone's ward. Literally on average this is worth at least 3 kills.)

Understand when team's(both yours and theirs) could be considering objectives.(Dragons, towers, and barons.) Don't go crazy and feel like you have to stop them from getting a free dragon or something, but it's just a great habit to recognize when teams are thinking about them.)

Trade objectives when behind.

Learn how to abuse enemy players who choose are stupid.(Seriously, there is an ENORMOUS amount of people making dumb plays in low brackets. Farming the jungle when they should be pushing or recalling. Pushing a lane by themselves later in the game. And pathing through an unwarded jungle.

Learn how to snowball when ahead.

Learn how to cauterize the bleeding when behind.

Learn how to find opportunities to get back in the game.

Stay positive as best you can.(But don't be afraid to concede especially if you are going to tilt if you don't.)

Anyhow, good luck, have fun. [slayer-jinx-catface]

hi ìm groot1 votes

Your op.gg for match history is interesting, you won 1 out of your past 10 xayah games yet have an almost 4 KDA on her. Its entirely possible to just get really unlucky streaks in league, but if I had to guess on somethin that might have been your fault it would be lack of transfering your lead. I saw one game where you have over 400 farm, and several of them were over 40 mins. If you get a lead bot, you're in a great position to close out the game fast, just need to shotcall and make sure you're in the teamfights. Dont fall into the trap of being a KDA player. One thing to know about the leagues ranking system though is that if you're around your skill level in elo, then you are entirely subject to luck. It is only if you're of a significant skill level greater than the players you're playing with that you can effectively climb in an elo. You're not going to carry feeders unless you can outplay the people who get fed, and capitalize on their mistakes, but you can at least take comfort in the fact that in bronze, there are TONS of mistakes and opportunities to turn games.

GL

mountainear1 votes

Thanks for the response. I have a lead most games, it looks like I am just really bad and getting anything out of it. I am always skeptical of roaming with an adc because I end up getting deleted by a 1/10 jg

hi ìm groot1 votes

You might be making a consistent bad macro error after you get a lead that may be easy to fix. Should watch youtubers who main adc and kind of pick up on what you should be doing to carry a game beyond the lane. Usually after you win your lane and take your tower the next step is to go mid and try to end the lane phase, but its not always that straight forward. Also stutter stepping will become a must as adc, maybe not as much in bronze, but pretty quick. If you're worried about a jungler who's behind 1v1'ing you with a lead, you're probably still standing still when you fight meleers as adc.

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