The new onhit jg item which is basically a buffed FF from last season is god damn stupid how much dps it adds to ww and he still gets tanky from it, the stats it provides is insane for someone who can just lock you downever 60 seconds and is unkillable
Ark Angel HFB14 votesNot to sound like an ass... but I feel that the people who are complaining, started playing after season 2 was over...
WW, and other auto attackers, finally got a real on hit item back.
It isn't Madreds blood razor great... but it is damn near to it.
Velasan4 votesI don't normally post on any of these threads because the forums are just full of people complaining right now and not having actual balance discussions.
However, I just wanted to point out that nothing has actually changed for WW. You could do the exact same thing with feral flare by upgrading to the middle tier item and holding it then building other items until you had enough stacks and then just making the upgrade.
The only thing that has changed about him is how smooth this transition is now since you aren't waiting so long for it to build up, but you also don't gain some of feral flares other bonuses.
This is typical flavor of the month stuff where no one recognized how good WW was for a long time despite pick and win rates and have been clamoring for a rework only to find out he's actually good and cry for nerfs.
Two weeks ago I said WW was very good and 10 people told me he was in a terrible place with a bad kit and needed a rework.
Surprise everyone lol.
EvilRabbitt1 votesThe fun things in life, right? Wait til people pick on Jungle Jinx. Just wait.
Krfin2 votesDo you think we are going to see kog'maw's get smite so they can get that item to 3 shot people, like back in the days with madreds lol
HydraVenom1 votesLeblanc Jungle is better!
HydraVenom1 votesWell, these noobies are going to complain either way.. lol.
Boswick10 votesthe item itself is fine guys... it's the smite upgrade it comes with that adds the on hit true dmg.
Love Warwick5 votesThey need to nerf this item....ww is perfectly balanced without the addition of this horribly thought up stat stick
Ark Angel HFB3 votesI'm sorry but when a champ breaks an item that works for almost everyone else... the champ is the problem.
But riot has a history of nerfing items over champs so... we will see.
RIP locket and madreds blood razor.
Kuroi864 votesThe damage wasn't the issue with FF. Riot nerfed it due to the on hit healing, which WW doesn't really need.
Skias2 votesIts not the item, its warwicks ultimate being undodgable.
Kuroi862 votesThat's one of the aspects of his kit that Riot has already confirmed will be going is the point and click ult. They have already pondered a dash style skill shot that would act like his current ult if it hits. We'll have to see what they come up with.
Junkο3 votesI main Zed, and i'm so tired of Silver's building Zhonya/QSS or using one of the 100 abilities that counters Zed ult and my damage disappearing and making me feel helpless.
And i thought Plats actually had knowledge of the game and how to counter champs...
FeiXue1 votesPlats are basically golds that think they're LCS level just cuz they made it to plat tbh.
Long Dong Wukong2 votesThe difference is that it isn't doing 350 damage a hit to Baron/Dragon
Junkο2 votesWhy were you afk for 50 min farming FF instead of helping team?
Long Dong Wukong2 votesDo you not know what Feral Flare was?
I'm not following this 50 minutes thing. You just farmed for 25 minutes with an occasional gank until you were unkillable and splitpushed to a win. That's what a Flare was.
I didn't play Flare junglers anyway because it was boring and the opposite of how I played, but that's how you played a Feral Flare Jungler.
SeargentAnus1 votesThe difference is that it isn't doing 350 damage a hit to Baron/Dragon
Now it's giving WW an extra 500 dmg on his ult :/
Earl Eulrich2 votesYea, I think the Devourer-Enchantment is just a good bit stronger than it´s alternatives currently - mostly because it´s the only item that keeps on scaling and helps the jungler stay relevant throughout the game. Also it´s mostly more effective to just farm the jungle now and wait for "save" ganks with an ult than to risk falling behind by failing an early gank. I think they really should offer either scaling mechanisms to all jungle-items or another upgrade to keep those items more slot-effective lategame.
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Junkο1 votesZed does not surpress you and heal for his entire health while doing it. Or jungle with entire health.
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Junkο2 votesHave you even tried playing Zed jungle in the new patch? You will die to chickens in the first clear, WW will clear the entire jungle without prob and be at full hp. WW is also a million times better ganker and scales better.
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FeiXue1 votesYou mean other than the fact that WW can suppress a carry while dropping out 1.6k TRUE DAMAGE THAT CANNOT BE ITEMISED AGAINST? I mean you can get QSS for it, and that's all. Zed gets countered by a QSS or Zhonya's, and can't kill armour stacking tanks. WW disables your ability to zhonya's while doing true damage, so if you built any armour or MR, good luck having any of that shit matter.
Ryvaku2 votesDevourer upgrade just needs a big nerf on damage gained since most melee junglers not just Warwick uses it. Or have it apply to monsters and minions only.
Rebonack2 votesThe Devourer Enchantment on its own is fine. The Devourer Enchantment combined with Skirmisher's is pretty strong, but nothing terribly unreasonable. The Devourer Enchantment combined with Skirmisher's and Wolfy's Ult is pretty absurd.
WW has a remake in the pipe. I'm fully expecting Riot to Eve him until it's done. Expect the number of hits on his Ult to drop down to 3 and the damage up to 60% bonus AD to 'compensate'.
Wînter Fox2 votesI say just gate the amount of bonus on-hit magic damage on his ult. Easy.
BakugoBestBoy2 votes"Oh no a strong jungler with a strong item, kill it with fire!!!!". Seriously? You realize WW literally has to farm 6 right? Why don't you take an advantage while it's a 4v5? Or idk.. buy a fking ward and avoid being ganked by a champion that has to walk in to your lane to ult you... Cry moar pls QQ. Yes, WW's late game is stupid strong, but it takes time and it always has.
Krfin2 votesCalm your tits, Riot is currently reworking warwick. They are going to completely change his ulti. They already gave a sneak peak, telling us that the WW ulti is going to be similar to Leblancs W, as in goes to one point then back. Not sure how they are going to make it, but they ARE removing the suppress
Zeliwin1 votesDoesn't the item say the "onhit" damage is specifically for monsters though....
Duke Anax3 votesNo that was the issue with feral flare, it only dealt damage to monsters until you hit 30, which made you useless when you couldn't farm it properly (counter jungle lanes loosing etc).
So they made devourer more usefull from the beginning, but they went way overboard. It's already full blast over the top from the beginning and still gaining speed.
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Crett1 votesThe new onhit jg item which is basically a buffed FF from last season is god damn stupid how much dps it adds to ww and he still gets tanky from it, the stats it provides is insane for someone who can just lock you downover 60 seconds and is unkillable
i think he meant every 60 seconds
ChaoticPinecone1 votesfinally - a low-skillcap champion is top tier.
now buff garen. (serious).
Bears Dont Care1 votesThe new onhit jg item which is basically a buffed FF from last season is god damn stupid how much dps it adds to ww and he still gets tanky from it,
It doesn't give him any defensive stats, are you high?
the stats it provides is insane for someone who can just lock you downever 60 seconds and is unkillable
What? WW is far from unkillable. O_o
Krom1 votesIts not the item thats really the problem, its the Red version with True Damage on hit, plus vision, plus 20% less damage. Its not just WW, that combo is really brutal on Yi as well.