So why exactly is Garen able to deal 4 digit true damage?

QuiteDapper·10/21/2015, 4:05:11 AM·4 votes·785 views

I understand that Garen is supposed to be a late game powerhouse, providing unending siege pressure in a lane he occupies by being able to regenerate and clear wave when undisturbed. But is it really appropriate for how many reworks have come around to sort of phase out the 'tank meta' that one of the most unsinkable ships in the game (even with a disadvantage) can deal 4 digits of true damage executing champions from over half health? I know he should be allowed to have kill pressure or the ability to seek out back-line carries during a flank and disrupt or kill them. But with less than a full combo's worth of damage he can kill Bruisers and resistance stacking laners...

I'm kind of disappointed that for this long no one has really even addressed this as far as I've seen from Riot's side of things. They haven't announced any plans to change this, probably because it affects the competitive scene very little since Garen isn't a very good 5v5 champ. But sincerely from a player who loves to have fun with friends and play this game wanting to learn and improve, but when something as blatantly disjointed as this rework comes out it gets hard to continuously either dedicate a ban to the champion while also being mindful of other evolving bans or try and pick him out or counter pick early so that my teams won't have to be pressured into a unfavorable match-up.

I was wondering other's thoughts on this, and maybe it would be nice to hear if Riot plans to address the gratuitous amounts of damage.

6 Comments

Abyssphere10/21/2015, 4:05:35 PM2 votes

"I'm kind of disappointed that for this long no one has really even addressed this as far as I've seen from Riot's side of things."

Why would they have? Hardly anyone's complained about it. Garen doing lots of true damage with his ult is not a problem as long as it takes up an appropriate amount of his power budget and... it does. Just like Cho's ult.

Only Play Darius10/21/2015, 4:08:55 AM1 votes

Are you seriously questioning the existence of true damage nukes?

Because it's hilarious lol

Super dunk bros. Garen Darius

Gorgannan10/21/2015, 4:10:48 AM1 votes

I really hate to say this, but he's allowed because it's a team game.

There are plenty of champions that can 1v1 better than Garen. There are many champions that literally do everything Garen does better. The difference between Garen and a Trundle is Garen is worse in every way, +1 the ult. I mean, Darius can do the same things but better. GP's Barrels do as much late game as Garen's ult, unless you're already 1/5 hp. People always say "Dota is balanced around broken heroes" but LoL isn't so different. I can list on 2 hands the champions that aren't insanely stupid somehow or another.

Sire Hippington10/21/2015, 2:24:04 PM1 votes

Since when is Garren supposed to be a lategame powerhouse? He's an early-mid champ... just take a look at his win rate % by game length http://champion.gg/champion/Garen

Minions4eVeR10/21/2015, 3:55:48 PM1 votes

Meanwhile Darius does it to 5 people :^)

Seriously tho, his entire kit got nerfed for the Villain true damage, so please, don't.