New jungle is.... this is not a QQ thread

Alywan··2 votes·595 views
  1. All changes riot makes seems to encourage more teamplay/sieging. as a result : SoloQ is a mess, lose hard one lane against a snowballer champ, lose game However, this is clearly not the final touch, and probably Riot will address these kind of issues soon.

  2. If you make these kind of changes, please, for the love of Demacia, try to push higher the jungle gold income, and introduce some different items for every type of class : champions that are mana hungry, champs that need lifesteal, etc.! Right now, having to MANDATORY buy a Lifesteal Item + a mana item makes on ALL(!!!!!!!!!) champions is very poor decision IMO. When i see on Aatrox, for example, that i have to buy mana regen in jungle is so stupid.... And if you still keep the fast-pace trend going, why, for the love of Teemo, make the jungle even harder ? I can't even finish my first item by the time the first tower is down. Right now, all you can do as jungler is only one thing : coordinate with one lane, and try to push the lane as hard as you can until you reach inhib/nexus by that lane. THIS IS EVERYTHING A JUNGLER CAN DO NOW ! With the ward changes, you can't ward/protect your lanes at all. With the same ward changes (free upgrade lvl9 + 180 sec stacks), early laning phase is a tad safer. Not to mention the 75 pink ward which, if you put it correctly can save your ass for a FB in min 3.

IMO there are lots of changes that contradict each-other. Making a more fast-paced game, while making the jungler harder is just an example.

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I see some of you miss the point : You clear harder than before (5.21), but making it to clear harder + fast paced game is NOT GOOD IMO Because right now, i ALWAYS have to be somewhere, helping some other lanes or taking objectivs. Which forces ALL JUNGLER NOT TO FARM ANYMORE AT ALL !!!And you will reach min 30 with 2 1/2 half items if you don't get fed like mad ( and stealing all kills in process )

9 Comments

Talkrr1 votes

My idea exactly. Jungling isn't fun anymore. I'm having to go from top to bot right when I reach top because bot turrets are being completely obliterated by Graves and Cait. Then when I reach bot Top is being pummeled. I have no time to farm and I'm so underleveled because of this issue.

Fredgerd1 votes

Try reoptimizing masteries and experimenting with different junglers. I've found quite a few sustain quite well and have good clear times and many of the same have solid ganking. The jungle isn't really harder with everything taken into account you just need to choose the right start item and good masteries/runes.

Talkrr1 votes

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Try reoptimizing masteries and experimenting with different junglers. I've found quite a few sustain quite well and have good clear times and many of the same have solid ganking. The jungle isn't really harder with everything taken into account you just need to choose the right start item and good masteries/runes.

Imo, it isnt the masteries anymore, it's just the amount of farm you a restricted to due to the fact you have to roam everywhere. Then again I'm low elo so it may be different for others.

Fredgerd1 votes

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Imo, it isnt the masteries anymore, it's just the amount of farm you a restricted to due to the fact you have to roam everywhere. Then again I'm low elo so it may be different for others.

Same. Low elo experiences shouldn't be totally ruled out though. I'm just saying, you can get some pretty good clears on some champs. Make sure you aren't dismissing scuttle crab in your clears also. It's usually worth a fair amount of health back for you and a good thing to do while you wait for smite to come back up.

Fredgerd1 votes

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Same. Low elo experiences shouldn't be totally ruled out though, they're just different and second trumpet to professional play. I'm just saying, you can get some pretty good clears on some champs. Make sure you aren't dismissing scuttle crab in your clears also. It's usually worth a fair amount of health back for you and a good thing to do while you wait for smite to come back up.

Talkrr1 votes

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Yeah, this is a good tip. I learned this when I got into ranked. Scuttle is the most annoying jungle in the game due to it's evasiveness imo XD

Fredgerd1 votes

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Yeah, this is a good tip. I learned this when I got into ranked. Scuttle is the most annoying jungle in the game due to it's evasiveness imo XD

Depends on the jungler, some junglers are really good at pinning it down. Also you can pin it against a wall if you do it right. Shhhh don't tell rito.

Talkrr1 votes

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Depends on the jungler, some junglers are really good at pinning it down. Also you can pin it against a wall if you do it right. Shhhh don't tell rito.

Dw I won't it's the only thing us junglers have now, Tahm kench was good for pinning it.

S H A Y C 01 votes

try to push higher the jungle gold income, and introduce some different items for every type of class :

You do know they came out with an alternative jungle item that addresses mana hungry junlers right? +150% mana regen while in jungle ring any bells? They also increased gold from each of the camps i thought, maybe not enough...havent jungled much in the last 24hrs. And why on earth would you be in solo q so early in the patch? you are just asking for "a mess"

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