I don't understand the balance behind Akali.

Sjoka·Sep 16, 2016·6 votes·737 views

An Akali that is the same level as me with just a Hextech Revolver can Q ult AA and I'm dead with no chance of counterplay. When I do happen to survive she just uses her shroud and ults me again and I'm dead.

There is no fucking counterplay to this unless you happen to rush full tank on a squishy champion.

Sure, this is just another QQ thread, but this isn't OK. There's no way this isn't completely toxic gameplay and there is no way it should be acceptable.

12 Comments

KłedGodSep 16, 20164 votes

I feel like only the Akali mains down vote this. I had this happen to me when I went mid the other day. She hit lvl 6 and thunderlord with 3 hit combo does 80% health damage if I have no extra resistence besides runes. Add that with ignite my life was miserable that gam.e

Akali is SO HOTSep 16, 20164 votes

Unless Akali is miles ahead everyone else she has never been able to 100-0 someone with only one rotation. The only time where she can start to 100-0 people is Late Game after she has a lot of items when she can Q + Ult + Auto Attack + E + Ult which still takes quite a bit of time to do. Before that she needs at least 2 Qs to kill someone which means 2 rotations. Revolver and level 6 give her a pretty big powerspike for her early game but unless you are level 1 and afk she won't ever be able to 100-0 someone with one rotation.

Having 3 dashes is actually what makes Akali very healthy with her kill pattern. If she only had one dash then she would have to have all of her damage frontloaded into her Q proc which would mean then she would be able to 100-0 people after level 6. Akali has the slowest kill pattern of any assassin which gives people plenty of time to react to her. She has to dash into the middle of your team to kill the carry which makes her very easy to focus down and CC. Other Assassins have much higher burst or reliable escapes which makes focusing them much harder than Akali.

Akali's niche is being a very strong pick Assassins so if you are out of position she'll probably kill you late game. You have plenty to do when Akali goes int melee range to trade with you after level 6. Don't just afk and let her hit you for free. Buy pink wards. Have your jungler or support camp your lane. Poke her out of lane pre 6. CC her when she goes in on you. Push her to her turret so she can never go in on you or roam.

You played against an Akali that got incredibly fed off of Ahri and snowballed and probably got fed out the ass from your team's poor coordination or positioning. Learn to play against her instead of QQing about her.

But I've only been playing Akali since Season 3 so what do I know.

StrawberrycocoaSep 16, 20163 votes

Akali is probably the least problematic assassin though.

TalinisSep 16, 20161 votes

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Akali is probably the least problematic assassin though.

Leblanc is by far one of the most, her and rengar. Leblanc has insane mobility higher than a melee only fizz, high burst, range wave clear, ranged, better safety, same cc as fizz with her chains. I knew when they announced the assassin update she was def going to get one. There is no counterplay in the kit. At least fizz is melee. Leblanc burst combos from range and ports away.

If Fizz had an update it would've been to be less feast and famine and more useful if not fed since he has such a poor lane phase compared to most assassins. Missing % health is being removed either way and the power rolled into we don't know what yet. Not sad to see it go, it's basically a win more mechanic that fizz's who are behind can't take much advantage of. E would not have been touched in mechanics and Riot confirmed that, being it's both iconic and unique gameplay with counterplay being to play around the CD of E.

k wìxSep 16, 20162 votes

Akali has clear defined strengths and weaknesses, just like Annie - **hell - I'd say Annie is in a better state currently. **

If she gets remotely fed, stay the HECK away from her, or you'll feed her the game. Most people at Bronze to Gold ELO do not think this is possible. **Again, if you think there is no counterplay to a fed assassin, you are technically right, she will dominate and win every SINGLE teamfight - But your definition of counterplay is simple minded. There are OTHER WAYS to control a fed opponent. ** Here is some free advice!

1.) Stay OUT of the jungle unless you know where she is. Keep to your lane and STOP her from pushing. The losing side generally wins in stalemates - so this is to your benefit. Understand she can dash and has a flash - be ready to counter with yours.

2.) Akali is weak to harass and wave clear - She can't really control the pacing of the lane, Nor can she put up with STRONG harass unless she ruins her build with defensive items (pro-tip: She wont)

3.) She is weak to CC - just like every assassin in the game. Remember to control her so she can't stomp people in the mid game.

4.) Remember that Assassins tend to fall off late game, as CS and gold values tend to equalize, you can start being a bit more riskier.

5.) Nothing will stop an assassin that goes 6/0/2 from CARRYING a game. It is way to late at that point, and whoever fed her made enough mistakes to lose the game - This is a design choice; it's called slippery slope.

#themoreyouknow

Alpha SamsuniSep 16, 20161 votes

This is just anoth-

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An Akali that is the same level as me with just a Hextech Revolver can Q ult AA and I'm dead with no chance of counterplay. When I do happen to survive she just uses her shroud and ults me again and I'm dead.

There is no fucking counterplay to this unless you happen to rush full tank on a squishy champion.

Sure, this is just another QQ thread, but this isn't OK.

oh.

well guess what an zed the same level as me ulted w e q aa q and killed me he's broken NURF NOW PLS

SjokaSep 16, 20161 votes

Yeah... Except that's all four of his abilities and an AA in the mix whereas only half of Akali's kit exists when she's going in to assassinate somebody.

TalinisSep 16, 20161 votes

This is the ultimate issue when you have champions like fizz, akali, katarina and other similiar assassin like champions who have basically no tools compared to other champions. Compare to mages, heavy CC, zoning tools, all range, poke abilities, siege ability, stronger aoe, range wave clear and some even similiar levels of burst. Then you have these champions that are basically, melee, burst, mobility, melee wave clear, a dodge mechanic to stay alive since they aren't tank like bruisers and that's about it. Since they have so very little other tools taking up power budget, it has to go somewhere and so it goes to what they do have, which is burst and mobility. Can't really complain about it. Maybe give them some tools so they can do something else and they can take some power away.

SjokaSep 16, 20161 votes

I can too complain about it because there is no counterplay in lane past level 6.

TalinisSep 16, 20161 votes

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I can too complain about it because there is no counterplay in lane past level 6.

Then state how you would give them other tools so they can make the champion less binary. So then they can do something else instead of just burst damage and mobility unlike most other champions in the game which have more.