This account that I'm currently on has 40 something wins, and 24 losses, I'm facing people up to 2 brackets higher, and I'm losing about 15% more than I'm gaining in LP. Another account that I was using last month I was gaining even 22-26 LP and losing 15, when I had an 89% winrate over almost 100 games, in plat IV, and facing all diamond III+. What on earth is with ranked this season?
i have the exact same problem this season.
"Something's wrong with LP gains/losses." Well, yes, Riot made it, and that's just a small part of Ranked being completely broken in general. Serious advice: don't play ranked.
I heard it was like that in diamond last season from a friend. It made him quit ranked altogether because he had a great winrate but couldn't ever actually climb if he lost a game. Hopefully there's a fix for it sometime soon
Yeah, it's almost like your win rate doesn't matter sometimes.
Blame master tier. When Riot implemented it last season, it completely fucked up diamond MMR, especially the bottom of diamond 5. The creation of Master Tier completely thinned out Diamond 1, either pushing them ahead into challenger, or more likely, back into lower diamond divisions. What it means for you is that the mmr between divisions in diamond is alot farther stretched than before, so everyones LP gains are messed up once you get that high.
What were the rank of your team mates? League's ranked system works by a MMR score. Frankly, it is designed to estimate your skill level and keep you at the rank it deems you should be in.
A Bronze 3 player with a MMR of Silver 1 will gain ~33 LP per win and perhaps 10 per loss. While a Diamond V player with Plat or Gold MMR will lose ~25 LP and gain ~10 LP.
It sounds unfair, but keep in mind that the game matches teams for a close average MMR. One gains less LP the lower his/her MMR is to his/her actual rank is because the game assumes that your team mates with the higher MMR scores that brought up the average **carried **you.
Generally, people who played in the previous season climb extremely quickly after promos because the former challenge and master tier players are emptied into Diamond and Platinum, so everyone is a few tiers than where their MMR scores are at. However, as you play and win more games, your ranked will eventually exceed that MMR score.
In order to raise your MMR: Don't lose. If you win enough games at a higher ELO, your MMR score will eventually go up.
Upvoted, hopefully a Rioter will comment soon. I'm in a low elo (S4) so I don't deal with this a whole lot.
It's been like this towards the middle-end of every season since they introduced this plat 5plat 1 bullshit instead of just leaving it MMR so that the elo boosted players would fall back to their low elos quickly. Now they sit at diamond 4/5 and plat 4/5 ruining games for those trying to climb. I don't even enjoy ranked on NA I just want the diamond border like my LAN and KR account has rofl. I lost so much MMR this season that I dropped from d3 to plat 2 after I got my plat 1 and then won every game until diamond 3 because I stopped playing and then started last month or so again and have been winning only like 60-40% of my games instead of 70-100% like I was before. Elo inflation and riot not giving us a hard reset at the end of every year is ruining what ranked is supposed to be about. Decision making and personal skill. Games are decided by the weakest 1-2 players on every team.
People are like "oh this region is better than xxx region" lol. Maybe at the highest elos for sure. But anything under d1 it's the same shit different day. Removing MMR being the real rating was the worst decision I've seen riot make in a long time regarding ranked/competitive play Along with randomized first pick.
I promise -rolls eyes-
I don't think it's only related to Diamond tier. I have an account above 50% winrate in bronze and still loses more LP per loss than it gains per win. Maybe it's the MMR for it though.
Just thought I would ask a question. Don't know if my questions are related to your issue or not.
I just finished my provisional games (won 6, lost 4; I was pretty evenly matched with my teammates). I got put into Silver III (what I was last season). However, I lost six/seven games in a row after being placed. The people on my team were Gold last season, I can tell by the borders. The enemies are just simply too good for me (and my team, it wasn't like I was the problem every game, especially since I main support) to beat. I don't deserve to be facing those teams. I then got demoted to Silver IV, and I am back to doing just fine in ranked games again. I'm in my series to be promoted back into Silver III. Want to know what is up.
I think the problem is that the ranking system has managed to become completely disassociated with an individual's MMR. If you can be sitting in Gold and get (consistently) matched with high Plat and maybe even low Diamond, why are you not in high Plat/low Diamond?
The idea of promotional games may have a part in this disparity. I say go back to straight-up ladder, ELO system, using accurate MMR to designate a range of MMR values that could then be named Bronze, Silver etc. through Challenger. For example, if you're around 1k MMR and you're winning games, gradually you're MMR will increase (MMR would increase higher rates if you are carrying), and once you get past lets say 1200 MMR there is a message that tells you "Congratulations! You have reached Silver Tier! Well played on the fields of justice, Summoner" etc.
I here all these complaints about Diamond mmr and I am just sitting here in Bronze 2 cause I suck lol
