Ashe changes

King Muffin·Dec 1, 2018·2 votes·1,446 views

The meta continuously changes with adcs already falling behind in their carrying potential. Most adc's have a kit that would benefit them in lane while champs like Ashe lack any early game potential. Her kit doesnt really help her with the damage category. most adc can out damage her and leave her falling far behind. yes her ults good for a dual and picking off a target but her kit itself lacks the early game potential. what she needs is a slight change to her kit or a buff to her damage to make her a more useful adc overall.

12 Comments

WilyumDec 1, 20183 votes

I think Ashe is actually pretty decent right now. If there was going to be any change it would probably need to be to let her Rangers Focus be easier to get off. If she could use Rangers Focus more quickly she'd be much better off. Her main issue I think is having virtually no mobility compared with meta ADC's (Lucian, Kai'Sa, Vayne, etc.) but allowing her to get Rangers Focus off more quickly would increase her damage and help slow down the enemy ADC. I would also increase the cooldown on it so it wasn't easily abusable.

Doge2020Dec 1, 20181 votes

I think she is fine rn. It’s just that you and your supp must play better and more strategic to at least survive lane. If you can survive laning phase as Ashe then you are in a pretty good spot to win the game.

With the addition of the shards Ashe has better access to resistances and damage that she can use to survive or even win the lane.

King MuffinDec 1, 20181 votes

but the thing is even with a good supp her damage will fall off late against adcs who already out damage her early

Doge2020Dec 3, 20181 votes

The main point of Ashe isn’t really her damage. It’s more of the utility.

Sure when she gets fed she can deal a lot of damage but her focus is more on utility and teamfighting instead of big boi damage numbers. That is why she deals less damage than other adc’s, it’s to make up for the extremely powerful amount of CC and utility she brings for her team

D357R0Y3RDec 1, 20181 votes

330 base ms and she becomes good again

ParoeDec 1, 20181 votes

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330 base ms and she becomes good again

I disagree. A new passive is what she needs.

D357R0Y3RDec 1, 20181 votes

i've been wanting a passive increasing her damage against ranged champions, like her AA deals bonus 10% damage for each 100 units travelled

the reason is that ashe countering immobile melees is irrelevant in 2019, every adc counters immobile melees. Her countering high range champions would be interesting however.

but that's the kind of work that she won't get in the near future

ParoeDec 1, 20181 votes

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i've been wanting a passive increasing her damage against ranged champions, like her AA deals bonus 10% damage for each 100 units travelled

the reason is that ashe countering immobile melees is irrelevant in 2019, every adc counters immobile melees. Her countering high range champions would be interesting however.

but that's the kind of work that she won't get in the near future

Personally, id love ashe to have a passive that benefits on-hit. Can you imagine a Hail of Blades passive that resets while in combat like conqueror? Id love that so much.

Inkling CommandoDec 1, 20181 votes

i agree. yes her passive makes crits special to her but preventing her from critting unless the target is frosted is not the way to do it. i think how it should work is with each consecutive hit the damage increases by 10% AD and keeps climbing up to 200% AD damage. (i.e. 100% AD for first attack, 110% for 2nd, 120% for 3rd, and so on. meaning you need 10 hits in a row on same target to achieve 200% AD). Ranger's Focus would not count towards the stacks but would use the current damage multiplier when used.

ZontresDec 9, 20181 votes

Ashe needs help, in all the above mentioned categories. Ashe needs to be able to crit again like every other adc, the guy above had a great idea about scaling crit with ever hit, then resets when switching between enemy targets...and her (Q) rangers focus should be activatable at anytime and should hit multiple targets, up to 3 at a time. It should also offer a movement speed buff when activated. Her ULT also needs more damage, it's so weak, and it needs to stun for a longer duration when enemy is in close range. So maybe just a flat stun of 2.5sec...

give head patsDec 1, 20181 votes

Ashe has pretty high range and strong poke with her W. Her E early game is also really good for avoiding ganks and gaining information on the enemy junglers pathing. Her weakness right now is every ADC's weakness, and thats that they suck, and have for nearly the entire year.

ZontresDec 9, 20181 votes