Luden's Echo's tooltip is as clear as it's in-game visual effect (Not clear)

HeWolf·Mar 14, 2015·2 votes·775 views

Luden's Echo: Passive UNIQUE: Gains charges upon moving or casting. At 100 charges, the next instance of ability damage you deal will expend all charges to deal 100 (+ 15% AP) bonus magic damage to the first enemy hit and summon up to 3 lesser bolts that target nearby enemies, prioritizing enemies damaged by the ability and champions over minions.

Suddenly, you try it on Ezreal for maximum Q proc damages. Q is an ability. I'm pretty sure. Didn't proc'd.

Solution: Either it is a bug that should be fixed or it should say magic damage from an ability.

13 Comments

Lord DusteonMar 14, 20154 votes

Ezreal's Q is for all intents a basic attack that cannot critically strike. As such, it does not apply spell effects, which means it does not apply Luden's.

SpongebobIsLifeMar 14, 20151 votes

it applies on hit effects. Luden's is an on hit effect. Statik Shiv is an on hit effect. Spellblade is on hit effect. All should be and are applied by his q.

Lord DusteonMar 14, 20153 votes

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it applies on hit effects. Luden's is an on hit effect. Statik Shiv is an on hit effect. Spellblade is on hit effect. All should be and are applied by his q.

Luden's is NOT an on hit effect. Why would you think the item that applies ON SPELLS would apply ON HIT?

If you cast a spell and it hits something, Luden's procs. Ezreal's Q is considered a non critically striking basic attack, and thus does not proc it.

CenturosMar 14, 20152 votes

Luden's is a SPELL effect like Rylai's slow and Liandry's burn. Ez Q probably doesn't proc those.

Try using Luden's on Garen's Judgement. See if he can still be a wizard.

SpongebobIsLifeMar 14, 20151 votes

it does

HeWolfMar 14, 20151 votes

Thanks for explaining, I didn't understand it perfectly then :)

Sailor MintMar 14, 20152 votes

Luden's Echo is a spell effect (similar to Rylai's Crystal Scepter). Mystic Shot only procs on-hit effects.

HeWolfMar 14, 20151 votes

I see now, thanks :)

Matthias9119Mar 14, 20151 votes

Solution: Either it is a bug that should be fixed or it should say magic damage from an ability.

It will proc on abilities that deal physical damage.

I would expect it to work with Ezreal's Q, since it is blocked by spell shields (unlike, say, Nasus' Q.) It may be some weird interaction where it won't proc on things that dont apply spell effects. Or maybe that's intentional, but then the tooltip should be clearer.

Edit:

I checked Wikia and spell shields block Nasus' Q as well, so this is in the same boat. If an ability procs Statikk Shiv it won't proc Luden's Echo, and that's probably intentional.