Snow Day Urf Sucks

chimpkiller007··50 votes·4,067 views

Riot this is mode is absolutely terrible compared to the good ol' URF we love It has a few redeeming qualities but most of the "features" are just horid.

Good: -Snowball Marks allow for some quick movement between lanes and gives a really good sense of the fast pace of Urf -Icy SR fits in with the holidays

Bad: -ADCs are terribly overtuned. I got a pentakill and over 40 kills with Jinx by just standing turret mode in the middle of the enemy team. They didn't even live long enough to cast CC on me! I would recommend nerfing the 100% bonus attack speed on ADCs to 75%, or making the 25% buff to crit only apply on melees. -Limited champ pool is a bad idea. I know you guys had the good intention of having ice themed skins, which does LOOK good in game. BUT... a lot of us are completely let down that we can't play more than half the champ pool for the rare time that URF is actually put up -ARURF has to go, for at least one cycle. It has been well over a year (and a half?) since we have gotten normal URF, and playing 50 games of ARURF just to get a champ that sounded fun to play (only to get stomped by an op champ) is terrible. Please give us normal URF (with the ice summoners rift and snowball mark) but add in 10x bans system (not draft, just blind pick with a ban phase). -Games are absolutely one-sided. This ties in to ARURF where rather than allowing us to ban out cancer we don't want to play against, there is going to instead just be a random chance of someone getting said champion and ruining the match. One side might get like full juggs and the other gets all marksman. It feels bad to lose simply because you got an unviable pick (especially as your last reroll). -Trap limits are very unbalanced. Honestly most of the champs with trap limits can get more traps on the map at once IN NORMALS than in URF. I would recommend either removing trap limits completely or at least doubling them. When people complain just remind them that SWEEPING LENS is an item.

Seriously Riot, I don't see why you guys are being so stubborn with URF. You went out on a whim to use ARURF, and now when the community requests different you don't want to switch it back or apply other highly requested fixes? Many of the "fixes" you do just end up ruining the fun (see: trap limit) because one or two bronzies complained about it.

I encourage you to try to make this URF cycle one to remember, as the community's Christmas gift.

You have a whole PBE cycle to try and get it right, just listen to feedback.

There are many posts like this. Why dont you guys use your brain and take some of these into consideration like "Hey maybe we should make our game fun and not a fucking hastle to players." This game gets shittier and shittier as the seasons go on. Fix it.

33 Comments

Fedoran10 votes

Hey there, I noticed that this post is copy-pasted from a post I made a month ago on my PBE account found here: https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/7jH5pN8Q-riot-snow-battle-arurf-is-probably-the-worst-and-most-unfun-urf-mode-ive-ever-played While you address in the last paragraph that there “are posts like this” I would appreciate if you added a link to my original post so I can be credited for my work. For example the jinx game described by OP is a jinx game on MY PBE account (although not in recent 20 games). Thanks for the publicity though!

Shablagoo2 votes

LOL

Disulfiram1 votes

[{quoted}](name=Fedora Noodle,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IY7pwgtm,comment-id=0009,timestamp=2017-12-20T19:14:59.292+0000)

-ARURF has to go, for at least one cycle. [...] Please give us normal URF

What about an hybrid system? It would be a variation for ARAM and ARURF: the champ pool gets divided into tiers based on their power in those modes. When champ selection begins, a tier is randomly chosen (the same one for every player in both teams of course): then, each player can pick any champ he owns from that tier (or maybe any champion that he or his teammates own from that tier?).

This way those modes don't have to be perfectly balanced, yet we'd see less curbstomping, we'd get to choose our champ (though from a limited pool), and we wouldn't see the same champs every game.

(Of course, no rerolls... how would you even use them in this system, btw?)

Fedoran1 votes

It would be better to just separate them so people cant find a way to complain about whatever abomination riot comes up with

vgamedude4 votes

I went AP Miss Fortune and it was absolutely disgusting lmao

chimpkiller0073 votes

You probs ad a good team. You can get the best champion but if the enemy team has a better comp or your team is absolute garbage (champion wise) you are not able to win the game, and the people on riot to not understand this.

Fedoran1 votes

Not necessarily, some things are just so ridiculous that you can 1v5 (e.g. jinx game)

GeminiRune1 votes

The pre-rework days where I could just E-R someone and they just freaking DIE. I. MISS. THOSE. DAYS.

nGio4 votes

I totally agree that this snow shit sucks, but we aren't even getting ARURF at this point. It's devolved into some clown shit that is so bad that it's obvious to me it's been sabotaged to force us to file back into line for ranked. Shit, I'd be happy with URF or ARURF, but don't force this trash down my throat.

Riot, you aren't going to force me into playing ranked LC$ Simulator by giving us shit RGMs, vaulting popular game modes, and ruining the ones we loved. I'll come back when I get URF, ARURF, or One For All. I'll give up my 2 year boycott of not giving you money when you make those modes permanent, and you stop treating your customers like children who need to be told what is fun.

Fedoran2 votes

To be fair, riot doesnt keep these modes permanent so the playerbase isnt split and people dont burn out, BUT it still doesn’t excuse Snow ARURF

Underworld Wolf4 votes

Well i used to love URF, since the first day it came out, i used to play 24/7 i stoped doing everything just to play it. When i saw ARURF i was like "not sure if i like this, im praying that they will change it", and now i see snowdown ARURF and im like fuck this shit xD i ain't playing league any more i lost all the fun of it and so does everyone i know, i played like 5 arurf in pbe and thought they were going to change cause everyone was complaining about it, well i guess not xD rip fun league

PS: Riot u should insert both modes, like a category saying URF, inside that insert "Winter ARURF" and "Normal URF". Just so everyone can enjoy the game. That's my tip u guys have no many employees that you can make that work i think.

Have a nice day!

JavelinJoe3 votes

I think trap limit was more for when the particle effects would lag the game (back then at least) when so many were out. Now though I agree, trap limit really reduces the fun of some champions and should be rethought.

Fedoran2 votes

Yea, the whole purpose of URF was to be unrestricted and unbalanced fun, but riot just removes all the fun (AND IT STILL ISNT BALANCED, AND NEVER WILL)

thetamilguy3 votes

i think riot should just kill urf once and for all with this being the worst and final iteration of urf, just give us one for all and bloodmoon on regular rotation and the community will be happy. i mean the snowdown urf is terrible, absolutely garbage, who needs a snowball just tp and flash was good enough. i hope some riot dev reads this and is able to convey the message and kill urf once and for all, its not like riot is gonna give us original urf ever again, so if you cant provide to what the community wants then dont provide at all.

Nea1043 votes

Poorly designed, poorly made. Mirroring pre-season I guess :D

Morrider2 votes

Very well stated my guy! This is how we MIGHT get some change: by being logical and more or less polite. Screaming on the boards at Riot will get nothing done.

Fedoran2 votes

Yeah, too bad the identical post that had been on the pbe for a month was ignored by riot and nothing changed ( https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/7jH5pN8Q-riot-snow-battle-arurf-is-probably-the-worst-and-most-unfun-urf-mode-ive-ever-played )

Worth a try tho

Acheron162 votes

It mostly sucks because you can get shit like Trundle and other trash tier champs that are simply infuriating to play in this mode.

Why limit the pool yet leave the worst champions available? Who ever thought that playing against Zilean is fun? Against Tristana? Especially as Trundle or Tryndamere.

Agent Corgi2 votes

I watched a Draven Draven just sit in the Enemies base just picking people off as soon as they spawned...14 minutes into the game. He got a Pentakill a few minutes before hand.

Xypher2 votes

URF has been shit since it has become AR, they ruined the perfectly fun mode just because of some dimwits playing the same things over and over again. Now those who actually enjoyed playing different things don't get a chance to pick what they want, so much "fun".

Executioner1 votes

I dont know why you stuck with ADC over one game, decided to check your match history, no jinx game on that account. Please dont just say oh I had a 40 kill jinx game, without any context to the game. I wanna see the champions on both teams. Also ADC are not over tuned I can tell you that.

JustSaiyan693 votes

Crit itemization cheaper than almost every other category of items in game Crit provides tankiness, burst, waveclear, range, and easier kiting potential Adcs able to get to late game powerspike at 20 minutes Has an entire mastery tree dedicated to role, while also being viable in other trees

"ADCs aren't overtuned"

Vesemir2 votes

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Crit itemization cheaper than almost every other category of items in game Crit provides tankiness, burst, waveclear, range, and easier kiting potential Adcs able to get to late game powerspike at 20 minutes Has an entire mastery tree dedicated to role, while also being viable in other trees

"ADCs aren't overtuned"

meanwhile champions like Yasuo, Fiora, Tryndamere got completely screwed by the new runes... But hey adcs get to choose from 4 keystones. Thats all that matters. Balance team is made of whiny ADC mains.

Executioner1 votes

Were talking about urf, not the classic game of league of legends.

Also how in the world does crit provide tankiness? The only possible item is PD, even most adc dont even build the item. Also the only item that provides range is rapidfire which only gives 1 shot, before that shot needs to recharge. Crit doesn't make for easier kiting potential. What you mean is movement speed.

Tanks have a dedicated mastery tree, same with mages, your argument for that part is invalid.

JustSaiyan691 votes

The crit items provide all of that for way cheaper than almost every other item in game is what I'm saying. Adcs get to be monster dps machines while also having all this extra shit.

Tanks/Juggernauts/Divers/and some fighters are forced into the tank tree all together.

Mages can only be effective with their own tree and other trees aren't as useful.

Adcs have their entire tree and more.

Fedoran1 votes

The jinx game is on my PBE account because OP copy pasted my post from the PBE boards. The original post is here: https://boards.pbe.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/client-new-features-feedback/7jH5pN8Q-riot-snow-battle-arurf-is-probably-the-worst-and-most-unfun-urf-mode-ive-ever-played

by the way I dont think the game is in the recent 20 matches.

Yes adcs ARE overtuned and it is very evident. They get double gold efficiency from AS in Urf and half an infinity edge for free. That combined with their already cheap itemization is blatantly unfair unless the enemy got something insanely op.

FFv Potato1 votes

on top of all this shit riot makes a "SNOWMAP" in which most of the lower end PC users are having a lot of problem with. Playing in my dual core i5 laptop gives me throttles on the damn map which BTW WE CANNOT TURN OFF! Not to mention the game itself can't even support SLI so I'm fucked graphics wise on my main PC too. Good job riot. You not only managed to not just ruin URF further you outdid yourself by making this buggy map.

korg0231 votes

I would add your pros to cons aswell i hate snowball summoner and i have ice map

ChuShoe1 votes

actually downvoted just because post is copy-pasted with no credit to the actual author.

Jean WiT RaZoR1 votes

I love the new snowballs, but they shouldn't make them obligatory. If you get Kog, Jinx or any ranged champion without dashes, the last thing that you want to do is use this summoner.

Astolfo My Waifu1 votes

Quick answers why URF isn't coming back is maybe cause league of legends losing possible players throwing money into the game Link Right Here : https://dotesports.com/league-of-legends/news/riot-responds-community-hate-arurf-lol-19724 (If you read this you would propably understand

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