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League Is So Toxic Because Ranked System Sucks, Add Individualized LP System

AllTheLove·8/3/2015, 8:54:43 AM·11 votes·2,965 views

The reason league is voted one of the most toxic online games (and it really is), is because there is not an individual LP system. If you have a player who wants to AFk, rage, feed, anything, YOU are penalized. This creates major frustration to the innocent players, and even more frustration to other players who rage often. Change this stupid system already to something like Halo, where you gain levels based on your individual performance. There's a reason this game has such a lack of success trying to improve player attitudes, why they built the tribunal system, why they now use this terrible automated bans and punishment system. it's because they aren't addressing the root cause, that people who pay money for this game and take it seriously are victims of trolls and their own performance has no meaning unless your team destroys the nexus.

Youtube: League of Assholes movie trailer

72 Comments

Sasogwa8/3/2015, 1:31:56 PM5 votes

League would be much more toxic if there was based on performance. People would never even try to win games, they would try to have the best KDA for their little selfish LP gains. Would defeat the purpose of some champions that die quite a lot in teamfights ( Karthus ). This is unwanted. This game is about destroying the enemy nexus, not 'performing well in your creep/KDA score'. Having good CS/KDA helps winning, sure ; but that's it.

There would also be a lot of rage about KS-ing, which is currently commonly admitted not to be a thing.

LordFluffyJr8/3/2015, 9:47:38 AM3 votes

I agree that if someone afk's or rage quits you shouldn't have to lose LP. I had 1 person who was in 2 of my provisionals have computer issues and couldn;t join until 15 20 minutes in. This was the same person in 2 of my provisionals. I had one person rage quit. Then I did normal in the others. This put me at 4-6 on provisionals. When I could have gone 6-4 or even 7-3!

I think that if they make it so I don't lose LP when someone quits then tis fine. Even if it means you have to report them for something. If so many people report then you get that LP back. Fixing the community will never happen. Maybe changing stuff around it will.

BigBearBoí8/3/2015, 9:39:37 AM2 votes

Game is toxic because F2P. End of story.

And before you say make it B2P, F2P (among others) is what made League a success.

So basically take it or leave it.

Faith Breaker8/3/2015, 1:27:12 PM2 votes

Riot is arrogant with their profits and don't care.

GroundRuleDouble8/3/2015, 4:45:05 PM2 votes

So you want people to be rewarded for losing but farming good stats? Sounds about right....or not.

Exta5y8/3/2015, 6:01:56 PM2 votes

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The reason league is voted one of the most toxic online games (and it really is), is because there is not an individual LP system. If you have a player who wants to AFk, rage, feed, anything, YOU are penalized. This creates major frustration to the innocent players, and even more frustration to other players who rage often. Change this stupid system already to something like Halo, where you gain levels based on your individual performance. There's a reason this game has such a lack of success trying to improve player attitudes, why they built the tribunal system, why they now use this terrible automated bans and punishment system. it's because they aren't addressing the root cause, that people who pay money for this game and take it seriously are victims of trolls and their own performance has no meaning unless your team destroys the nexus.

Youtube: League of Assholes movie trailer

Ok hears my two cents

Most player (myself included) rage against people who are just horrible at their lane. This is most likely contributed to :

playing a new champ they never played before in that role
playing a lane they are not used to playing
not having the proper rune page or mastery
duoing with someone who is a whole division rank higher/lower than you

Trolls, feeders, afkers are less likely to get punished in comparison to ragers. This is a know fact b/c I have seen gold V players with a 30% win rate in rank. One of my accounts is silver 1 and has a 55% win ratio. SO how is it possible that he is still gold V and has yet to be ban. Another account I saw won 4/20 of his last rank games. I have seen many of these. But since we lack a proper tribunal, these players will only been seen as having a bad day and nothing more serious than that. This are gold mid to low gold players and high silver players. IK they are shit says everyone who is ranked below diamond. but none of the less you should know the basic mechanics. Unfortunately the current tribunal system searches for specific negative associate words. Therefore the troll feeder base afker will get away.
The lack of a team builder in rank causes/influences such behaviors. How many times have I see 2 players wanting to play the same role yet one has first pick the other doesnt. Most of the time you will see a troll, specially if they are duos.

Currently how the game is designed, trolls, feeders and afker will run rampage and are increasing in number since they figured out the loophole regarding punishment. PLus I think rito gets ac kick out of it. Imagine how they must crack up when they read those reports if they ever get them.

Rueian8/3/2015, 9:07:49 AM2 votes

There really isn't a way they can implement individual rating vs the current team rating system. If they implement something that isn't based on wins or losses, then it skews what people's focus is on in the game. There is no real metric they can track because of that.

Sona Ping8/3/2015, 9:18:01 AM2 votes

The reason is because the people who say these kinds of things still have not realized that all the numbers from the post-game screen, like KDA, CS, and Damage Dealt, that they use to talk themselves up, are not related and completely meaningless to how they played in-game. When the goal of the game is to score the most baskets, get the most runs, or destroy a nexus, aspects of performance that aren't linked to whether or not that goal is achieved aren't good enough.

AFK's and rage quits suck, I know, but this idea is untenable.

why they now use this terrible automated bans and punishment system.

Because automated systems are the only way to deal with 27 million players per day.

LordGeovanni8/4/2015, 7:20:25 AM1 votes

the system is fine the community is negative BECAUSE THE COMMUNITY IS NEGATIVE. that is how the community is almost everyone is self righteous the best way to see that is 'GG cant carry' it because everyone is trying to carry they try to get everything and completely neglect their teammates on this team game they become fed alone and dont see if they can share kills and assists they become a target for the enemy team to focus and their allies have neither the ability to help or survive many of the community doesnt have the ability to see different plans of actions for different match made games

AllTheLove8/4/2015, 9:08:40 AM1 votes

bump

LSD LobsterMoney8/4/2015, 9:12:50 AM1 votes

I recently had a botlane that just fed their trist and got demoted to silver 5 I mean, thats not fair

The Sword Saint8/5/2015, 7:22:22 PM1 votes

Stop, you're embarrassing yourself with the repetition. People have answered why individualized lp is a bad idea over and over, you just keep ignoring their valid points.

In case you really haven't gotten the message, it essentially comes down to this: lp is meant to measure your ability to win a team game. If your measuring system (lp in this case) in ANY WAY allows for people to 'game' their ranking by changing the way they play then your system is a FAILURE.

It may allow people to be 'less frustrated' about their lp gains and losses not reflecting their 'skill' on a game to game basis (assuming that you personally aren't gaming the system), but in the long run there will be MASSIVELY INCREASED FRUSTRATION from people being ranked INACCURATELY because of people who DO game the system.

The sole purpose of a ranking system is NOT TO MAKE YOU FEEL GOOD ABOUT YOURSELF IN THE SHORT TERM. The sole purpose of a ranking system is to ACCURATELY SORT the skill levels of players IN THE LONG TERM.

AllTheLove8/6/2015, 8:02:30 AM1 votes

bump

AllTheLove8/7/2015, 9:28:07 PM1 votes

bump

Jevokan8/10/2015, 9:20:46 PM1 votes

Its designed to create toxicity. Just take a look at all the symbolism in this game. Its clearly demonic and a form of mind control. Think about it. How much time have you wasted on this stupid game? How much money have you wasted on it? Has it made your life any better?

How much toxicity have you spread as a result of your frustration? Its a sickness and it creates more sickness. Its addictive and you will never satiate that addiction by playing it. It relies on exploiting your mind to exist. Its a horrible game that brings out the worst in human beings. I asked for my account to be deleted today.