ADCs are in a garbage spot in the meta. Riot's fondness of mages/bruisers/assassins in the bot lane is stupid. They all have their own specific areas to play them in. Nerfing ADCs to the point where they aren't competitive for "variety" in one lane while making an entire role obsolete makes no sense. There is a portion of the community that has dedicated years to the play style of marksmen and now we are just cast to the wind.
Boycotting league until this is fixed.
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ADCs are in a garbage spot in the meta. Riot's fondness of mages/bruisers/assassins in the bot lane is stupid. They all have their own specific areas to play them in.
no we dont. marksmen are legit the only class who have held a monopoly over a lane.
fighters, mages, tanks, assassins and even enchanters and marksmen are all interchangable in other lanes.
you could even play certain marksman in the fucking support role.
stop whining and get used to the new reality. your crit marksmen are lategame champions so youre not going to have early/midgame dominance of season 7 anymore. you have to play like nasus. a champion who has to farm up to scale but has a terrible early game.
you cant just braindead rush the same 3 items you always did every game, and have to think about build pathes again.
you might want to pick up a single defensive item to survive engages again.
yes, there will be melee and mage counter matchups for your marksmen, just like there are ranged counter matchups for us fighters in the top lane. get used to them and learn to play around them.
do you think its fun to play a melee champion into fucking teemo, kennen or gnar? we still have to deal with it.
i swear, during the entire last year, when marksmen were batshit overtuned, so many people just jumped on the freelo train and switched to marksmen as their primary role. they never really learned how to play the game properly and relied on overpowered item builds, trash assassins not being able to deal with them, and supports shielding them for twice their health bar so they didnt even have to orb walk anymore.
now that marksmen are back to pre season 6 status, people just go into the game with the expectation that they can fight anyone with 2 items in their inventory, and can 1v1 a 5/0 top laner when theyre 3/2 on equal farm, or bully anyone around as soon as they hit 2 items. so many people think marksmen are trash now, because they never actually learned to play them.
this shit doesnt work anymore. it should never have worked in the first place.
Marksmen are fine, the game just ends before their power spike. Buff towers and baron and all is well.
Does anyone actually enjoy playing against adcs when they aren't in a bad spot? When they're not around, every mid-late game teamfight doesn't come down to "focus the adc or lose."
Adcs make the game very flow-charty by design.
Are you stupid. There is no room for marksman in league. Anyone can right click
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They all have their own specific areas to play them in. Nerfing Junglers by jungle changes/scuttle crab changes to the point where most aren't competitive for no variety in one lane while making an entire role obsolete makes no sense. There is a portion of the community that has dedicated years to the play style of Jungle and now we are just cast to the wind.
I feel ADC's could use some help as well and adjusted a bit of what you said to reflect how jungle is
The games just need to last a little bit longer so marksman can reach there late game spike. Marksman should not be strong at every point of the game.
What are you talking about?
