The Black Cleaver build path change

Steelzebugz··1 votes·1,127 views

item 3071 is in another weird spot in the meta. Top-lane fighters like Garen and Darius are starting to opt for the item 3078 pick rather than sticking to home base item 3071. Interestingly, ad assassins likeZed and Talon and adcs like Lucian and MissFortune have item 3071 as a core item, building it 2nd or 3rd item. Buffing item 3071 is out of the question, the item isn't under-powered, it just feels awkward to build for fighting other top-laners these days. There was an earlier post suggesting that instead of having item 3071 build out of item 3044 + item 3067, It would be built out of item 3044 + item 3133 + item 1028. With this build path completing item 3071 with all parts would cost 300g, grant the passive and give the bonus stats +50 hp, and +10% cdr. This suggested build path would give fighters who decide to have item 3071 first item to have the early stats for trading and farming, instead of being bogged down by a random utility item like item 3067.

What do you guys think? I think this different build path would help black cleaver immensely as a first item for top-laners. You guys got any other ideas?

p.s. This is my first board post. Its a lot of fun using all the icons instead of the actual names. these emotes are cool too [slayer-jinx-catface]

5 Comments

VoraciousX2 votes

They removed this build path because it gave too much AD and ADCs were using it too often(including Lucian and Ashe). It used to be built out of item 3133 + item 3044 and be 50 AD, 300 or 350 HP and 20% CDR. Also had more armor pen iirc. They removed Caulfield's because it gave too good of a rush for an item that was so good overall. Honestly I haven't felt bad at all rushing Kindlegem on Riven when I played her. Gives some extra health to survive early game. The reason they're using Trinity Force is because it pretty much guarantees them a better early game which will lead them into late game ahead.

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

Except when an armor penetration item becomes the go-to rush, it makes front-liners who rely on durability struggle regardless if they're early or late game. Even then it's still abused by some marksmen and assassins for the massive CDR it gives ontop of it's stacking armor shred. The armor shred should only count for the champion with the item, because it stacks with last whisper and lethality, empowering physical damage dealers far more than it should.

Moody P1 votes

then you would need to buff the stats hard because the team shred is part of the point and a big chunk of the items efficiency

and the stats are already really good for the price tag

ZT Xperimentor1 votes

I'd say revert the buff to black cleaver before raising armor immensely, but I agree it's a good item for half the roster.

Inkling Commando1 votes

the current build path is a bit, awkward. item 3067 is a bit of an odd item to put into a weapon that does armor piercing. i am thinking item 3035 and item 3044 and 450 gold. both items give damage while the Arm Pierce comes from Whisper and the health comes from Phage. the CDR would just appear out of nowhere.

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