This game mode was very fun the first few days. But I feel it is getting a bit repetitive. I pretty much got all of the champions I own (I own 30). If ARURF was truly random, then we should, for just this game mode, be allowed to be randomly picked a champion from the 132 champions list. I feel this change is the best IMO for the best RNG.
Shadòw18 votesadd this to ARAM too.
The Soulforged1 votesadd this to ARAM too.
why doesn't riot deliver? There isn't a big downside to it.
specter4247 votesI've seen more Riven one tricks get Riven in a supposedly random mode then anything else consistently.
Jungle Brungus2 votesThis
Spaceman5pff1 votesProbably because they only own a few champions, so the chance of getting riven SHOOTS up. It is statistics, not witchcraft.
The odds are on their side, Riot is not conspiring against you.
Jungle Brungus3 votesthat's what were talking about.
Sir Fuzzi6 votesI have all but nine champions and played under six of them across twice as many games, so I can't say I feel you.
Random is random. It won't fix your problems. If you can't face certain champions, either A) you're not meant to really in URF or a single lane or B) you need to learn their ways. They'll still be picked, though, and they'll still suck to face.
Just because all the champs are unlocked, won't mean they're all magically getting picked. In fact, us people with high numbers of champs-- ergo less chance to get someone we dislike-- will just get rerolls faster. Then, you guys have the exact same chance of getting a scrub pick, we just have a phenomenally higher chance of rolling into something that isn't comparatively weak.
This won't fix ARAM, and once you do it it won't be undone. Of the nine champions I do not own, only J4 really disinterests me to the point of what I'd call 'dislike' with a close tie for Zed-- meanwhile, everyone in the game who dislikes Udyr, Mordekaiser or Jax to name a few unpopular picks (in my experience) will be forced with the chance to get them.
Look, this is a bad choice and removes player agency. If anything, "All Roster All Random All Mid" should be a mode of its own. ARAM is perfectly fine where it is and the niche balance touches they give to it (Thresh stax) are beautiful in their own way.
If you unlock the whole roster, everyone's just gonna god damn dodge so they don't have to play literally anyone who isn't Raka, Sona, Nid or Lux.
Please. Think of the queues. Stop this madness, stop this movement and let's forget about balancing an inherently imbalanced mode.
(All of that said, it could be a nice feature for ARURF as a featured mode, or maybe a system like 1FA where the cumulative champ pool is available)
Warlord Zudane4 votesWonder how it would go over to do URF and ARURF at the same time. Let people pick between Random and not.
Hinagiku331 votesGroup A: Only queues up for URF. Only picks the most broken URF champs like Sona, Eve, Shaco, Teemo, etc.
Group B. Only queues up for ARURF. Just wants to enjoy weird off-picks in URF without the people from Group A ruining their weekend by only picking the most broken champs.
Result: Queue times suck for both groups. Each group blames the other and insists that the mode they dislike is a failures and that everyone must play by the mode they like best.
Seriously though, I liked URF well-enough but it sucks to not be able to play anyone that isn't God-tier because you feel pressured to play the horribly stagnant meta-game. URF, by Riot's own admission, was a failure because most of the roster could not be reasonably picked unless the God-tier champs were all perma-disabled or nerfed to be non-playable. Riot wants ALL champs to see play in URF but also wants players to actually have fun - and Riot's policy does not support "fun" that comes only by denying other players the chance to have fun.
If you want to play the "URF Gods" then ARURF is the only way that will happen from now on. If it's not random, then Riot will either disable the champ you want to play or will nerf them so they will no longer be oppressive. ARURF is Riot's compromise.
Psi212 votes[{quoted}](name=Fiora All Night,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IHiebAhI,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-09-26T00:23:59.973+0000)
Group A: Only queues up for URF. Only picks the most broken URF champs like Sona, Eve, Shaco, Teemo, etc.
Group B. Only queues up for ARURF. Just wants to enjoy weird off-picks in URF without the people from Group A ruining their weekend by only picking the most broken champs.
Result: Queue times suck for both groups. Each group blames the other and insists that the mode they dislike is a failures and that everyone must play by the mode they like best.
Seriously though, I liked URF well-enough but it sucks to not be able to play anyone that isn't God-tier because you feel pressured to play the horribly stagnant meta-game. URF, by Riot's own admission, was a failure because most of the roster could not be reasonably picked unless the God-tier champs were all perma-disabled or nerfed to be non-playable. Riot wants ALL champs to see play in URF but also wants players to actually have fun - and Riot's policy does not support "fun" that comes only by denying other players the chance to have fun.
If you want to play the "URF Gods" then ARURF is the only way that will happen from now on. If it's not random, then Riot will either disable the champ you want to play or will nerf them so they will no longer be oppressive. ARURF is Riot's compromise.
Or no one plays ARURF and URF timers remain 10 to 18 seconds to queue up for.
Because and hold up for a second.... I know it is hard to believe. No... One... Likes... Playing.... A... Champ... They... Didn't... Pick....
See Nemesis and One for all ... the games are littered with AFKs, Dodges and terrible queue times.
This entire URF thing could have been resolve with added more bans. (5 to a team) It was even suggested with 400+ uptick. But you know what Riot did. They did the same thing they always do. Ignore the community and do what they want. In fact Riot went to such great lengths to make sure players could not play the URF mode they know and liked by applying another sloppy bandaid to lock players out from playing the Blind Pick mode that was discovered by PBE.
CookyPrince1 votesThe queues for both are pretty short compared to any game mode because it's urf like less than 30 seconds
Junkο1 votesMeanwhile Dota 2 has a thousand fan made custom game modes available permanently and the most popular ones have 3 minutes wait time max with a WAY lower playerbase.
PhDs Nuts1 votes[{quoted}](name=Fiora All Night,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IHiebAhI,comment-id=00040000,timestamp=2016-09-26T00:23:59.973+0000)
Group A: Only queues up for URF. Only picks the most broken URF champs like Sona, Eve, Shaco, Teemo, etc.
Group B. Only queues up for ARURF. Just wants to enjoy weird off-picks in URF without the people from Group A ruining their weekend by only picking the most broken champs.
Result: Queue times suck for both groups. Each group blames the other and insists that the mode they dislike is a failures and that everyone must play by the mode they like best.
Lol? ARURF queue times are 15 seconds. I can wait 30 seconds if the populations splits.
Covert Ops Gnar1 votes[{quoted}](name=Warlord Zudane,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IHiebAhI,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-09-25T18:35:54.656+0000)
Wonder how it would go over to do URF and ARURF at the same time. Let people pick between Random and not.
Splits playerbase making queue times too long. no.
Drago Zankaru1 votes[{quoted}](name=Covert Ops Gnar,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IHiebAhI,comment-id=00040001,timestamp=2016-09-26T00:27:24.287+0000)
Splits playerbase making queue times too long. no.
meaning most would play urf mode unless they dont care about what champion the play so arurf would have a long queue and ufr would have a short one
SELL1820SKINS4IP1 votes[{quoted}](name=Warlord Zudane,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IHiebAhI,comment-id=0004,timestamp=2016-09-25T18:35:54.656+0000)
Wonder how it would go over to do URF and ARURF at the same time. Let people pick between Random and not.
I love this idea because ARURF is the stupidest thing I have ever experienced. Not being able to use the champs I am good with in such an unbalanced game is strait annoying and I haven't gotten to be varus once this weekend.
Best Kog NA3 votesOr we just get rid of the All Random part and bring back good old URF
acehole762 votes[{quoted}](name=Best Kog NA,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=IHiebAhI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2016-09-25T17:28:48.410+0000)
Or we just get rid of the All Random part and bring back good old URF
this. so now just playing champs i hate isn't bad enough now you want me to play champs I've never played before? fuck you.
MrryZ7 votesOr or or Don't play the game mode if you don't like it?
Junkο1 votesExcept URF is the best game mode in the game, and we are forced to play it in this abomination of a pick mode..
MrryZ1 votesURF is the best game mode in the game
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abomination of a pick mode
Choose one you can't have both. Seriously no one is forcing you to play the mode, if you don't like the random part then simply dont play it and wait until normal urf comes back around.
Junkο1 votesOr they could give us the best game mode in the game along with allowing us to play whoever the fuck we want? We can easily have both, you could play AR URF in customs all the times before if you wanted to, but don't force this fucking garbage on us.
SELL1820SKINS4IP1 votesthis. so now just playing champs i hate isn't bad enough now you want me to play champs I've never played before? fuck you.
At some point you will have played them all, but your point still stands. Whoever at rito thought blocking me from playing the champs I love would make the game more fun is my mortal enemy. Random is fun for those who dont get urf, but it absolutely sucks to not play varus once all weekend when he is my main. Rito 1: Game I love 0
Elikain3 votesStill going to say no to this. People who own bare minimum of champions won't be able to earn chests or keys because they'd be getting champions they do not own more than their champions. If the point of faster game modes was to farm IP faster and not be concerned about "tryharding" on SR, it should be relatively easier for people to buy new champions you want to play and add them to your pool.
It takes time but AR modes should not be "i get to test all champions for free". The whole point of IP is to earn it and spend it on champions and runes.
Adriqnohee11 votesThe hole point of IP is stupid and should've gone a long time ago, the different modes are meant for us to have fun not to get things faster.
Elikain3 votesThe whole point of currency to unlock more things is stupid? IP, only in-game currency, is there to reward players for playing the game. You don't get to have everything for free while putting almost no effort into playing as opposed to someone who plays League daily.
IP prices are there to make sure you play a few games and have fun before deciding which fun champion you want to add to your roster and dedicate some time to before you buy another one. League is a game where you have to familiarize yourself with your champion and not constantly cycle between them because everything is free. Having content locked behind and in-game currency tells the player to familiarize themselves with a few champions and roles and then encourages them to expand their field of vision and knowledge with more champions.
Riot has been doing work behind the scenes, cutting champion prices by a tier (older ones), reducing rune prices and even halving the EXP you need to reach level 30. And you want more? There certainly can be more improvements regarding the IP prices however, you wanting to be free so that a few games won with FWofD buys you everything is never going to happen.
Anubhav Rocks6 votesJust saying, some people don't PLAY FOR EARNING IP. They play for fun. But guess what, you're not one of those. Just came for grinding IP and showing off? Not your place.
Drahcir3 votesGoing to be completely honest, i don't play this game for fun anymore, so many factors just ruined it for me, the only reason i play is to grind ip.
SELL1820SKINS4IP1 votesGoing to be completely honest, i don't play this game for fun anymore, so many factors just ruined it for me, the only reason i play is to grind ip.
Stoping me from being the champs I love has seriously ruined this game for me.
DevlinCrow2 votesAnd some of us prefer to get our IP/chests from those fun games modes. Yes we play for fun but we still get most of our stuff from there.
We need to find a middle ground not both sides telling eachother their opinion can fuck off
Elikain2 votesNot my place for what? Where did i show off anywhere? I don't remember giving anyone my IP account balance or using it to form an argument against someone.
And how do you know i don't have fun playing League? I wouldn't be a 7 year League veteran if i was bored or played for any other reason. Not like you have to have fun to continue playing League as there are many other reasons that can motivate you to continue playing it for years to come. My motivation currently is ranked. Even if your reason is grinding IP, you can only earn more IP either by buying a booster or simply playing more games than a player who plays for fun and only plays a few games a day. The difference between these tho players (a grinder and a casual joe) is that the grinder plays more games. That's it.
League rewards you for your time invested in this game with IP. The IP per game is more or less the same (slight variations on a game to game basis) so a player who players more games obviously gets more IP as both the quality and the quantity of the games is taken into the account.
League is never going to be free of IP price tags. The reason is because of new players. There's a lot of things in League and that's a lot of knowledge to take in. If everything would be free, new players would either quit (because of the sheer volume of things they know nothing about) or be forced from the get-go to look up guides or videos on how to play their champion efficiently, without even knowing the basics. IP gating is one way of sectioning off the vast knowledge and letting the player discover the various faucets of League on their own, not putting a huge strain on a player to learn everything and learn it now.
If you want an analogy, it would be the same as you're going to college and are expected to pass all of the classes the college has in a week without any lectures but you being told: "you have all this information on the internet, good luck".
That said, IP prices could be lowered some more, for example rune pages. I don't think champions should be on the chopping block in this manner, having being one of the only active pieces of content the players use discover what League is all about.
Spaceman5pff2 votes"If you don't agree with me, this thread isn't the place for you"
Someone can't handle opinions contrary to their own.
I7A6X2v23 votesI dont understand why some players want all champ unlocked for ARURF...
1: We must own the champ in order to earn KEYS & CHESTS...
2: WHAT IF WE GET A CHAMP EXTREMELY HARD LIKE 
<- Those champs r difficulty 10, i dont own them and idk how to play them... WHAT WOULD I DO IF I GET 1 OF THEM? DODGE?LEARN HOW TO PLAY THEM IN GAME? YEA AND MY TEAMMATES WILL REPORT ME BECAUSE I TROLL OR UNINTENTIONALLY FEED.
LifaFreeze3 votesI never report during rotating Random game mods because their supposed to be fun. Say in the beginning, "new to X champion. Expect me to be feeding xD". Especially for ARURF i say that a lot and its hilarious because it makes us all just have fun.
Poske1 votesZed is 8. Gp is 9 rest sure
Spaceman5pff1 votesI missed the part where leblanc was hard in urf. Level 1 = Q->q->q->q
Level 2 = Q-> W -> Q -> W
TL:DR = LB can pop her Q with her Q so there are almost no matchups she can't totally win at level 1.
Dark Tmn1 votesThe reason why people want all champs to be unlocked because of ARAM accounts only owning people like zed sona ziggs...anyone who would be broken in urf 3 games in a row i had to deal with a sona and/or zed and that shouldnt be happening...it isn't fun its just annoying to always be fighting the same champs every game
Junkο1 votesImplying Zed, LB or Lee are hard in URF.
RavenMagus1 votesLEARN HOW TO PLAY THEM IN GAME?
Well... yes.
How else would you learn a new champ?
(By the way, knowing even the basics on how to play these champs will go a LONG way towards being able to fight against them on regular Rift.)
archerno12 votesActually this is a very good idea.
jeddiemurphy2 votes**Normal LoL Player: **"Oh SWEET, URF weekend in this weekend. I can't wait to play some crazy-hyper PEW PEW PEW Ezreal!"
Raging Neckbeard Virgin: "WHOA WHOA WHOA WHOA, ASSHOLE. YOU'RE NOT GOING TO RUIN MY WEEKEND BY PLAYING OP CHAMPIONS YOU ARAM ONLY SMURF EXPLOITER!!"
**Normal LoL Player: **"What are you talking about?? I'm Silver III and have 41 champions unlocked. I'm not an ARAM ONLY account, I just want to play my main Ezreal with 80% CDR."
Raging Neckbeard Virgin: "THAT'S NOT THE POINT OF ALL RANDOM. THE MODE IS CALLED ALL RANDOM WHICH MEANS ALL CHAMPIONS RANDOMLY ASSIGNED. YOU ONLY WANT TO PLAY OP CHAMPIONS LIKE EZREAL BECAUSE YOU'RE A CHEATING ARAM SMURF WHO CAN ONLY WIN WHEN YOU HAVE AN UNFAIR ADVANTAGE OVER OTHER PLAYERS WELL THAT'S TOO BAD FOR YOU CHEATER YOU'RE GONNA PLAY URF AATROX AND URF SEJUANI AND YOU'RE GOING TO LIKE IT."
**Normal LoL Player: **"If I cant play what I want to play, why should I play at all?"
Raging Neckbeard Virgin: "FINE DONT PLAY URF. YOU ARAM ONLY CHEATERS RUINED ARAM AND NOW YOU'RE TRYING TO RUIN URF WELL WE DONT NEED YOU RUINING MY GAMES WITH YOUR OP CHAMPIONS"
Normal LoL Player: "Man, this new URF kinda sucks."
Raging Neckbeard Virgin: "NO YOU SUCK YOU ARAM ONLY ACCOUNT CHEATER. GTFO AND GO CHEAT IN SOME OTHER GAME."
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Raging Neckbeard Virgin: "MAN I HOPE THAT GIRL I LIKE SAW THAT I UPVOTED HER TUMBLR MAYBE SHE'LL SEND ME SOME NUDES CUZ IM SUCH A COOL TOLERANT GUY WHO RESPECTS WOMEN
**Riot Games: ** "League of Legends is the most popular video game in the world!!"
ARURF weekend, summarized.
SELL1820SKINS4IP1 votesARURF weekend, summarized.
<3 I love this, I am so salty I have been stopped from being the champs I love. Haven't got varus once this weekend :( Rito will probably delet this comment along with the rest of the anti ARURF sentiment.
Narasimha1 votesAs has been said, the prime reason you don't get a champion you don't own is so that you're not forced to learn a champion on the fly, in a mode that will almost certainly not be intuitive to how the champion is normally played. You don't want people to learn the wrong thing.
Junkο1 votesBut you have to learn free week champs you get on the fly anyway. And technically you have to relearn every champion on the spot in URF, and after like 3 minutes it won't matter anywy.
Narasimha1 votesTheres a difference between learning how to play a champion properly and then adjusting to a temporary game mode, and learning how to play a new champion in a temporary game mode and then then trying to play them properly.
Junkο1 votesNo not really... I haven't played Karma since her rework in Season 2, but it took me a good 3 minutes to figure out (and from seeing from other Karma players in URF) that all I needed to do was spam Q, perma shield myself and E when somebody was in range.
