Nerf magic and armor pen

SS1986·Jan 1, 2019·1 votes·1,649 views

This is obviously the issue fuck this shit buy armor or MR just to be 1shot anyway great I got 150 armor and after all the pen is applied I have 10 wonderful .

15 Comments

PhantomSpirit101Jan 1, 20195 votes

item 3147 item 3142 item 3814 item 3036 item 3071 Brings you from 150 to around 46...

What a huge exaggeration that is.

ZephyrDrakeJan 1, 20192 votes

you have no idea how armor and magic pen works nor how pen works... you exaggerating isn't going to make your argument better it just makes it worse

SS1986Jan 1, 20191 votes

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you have no idea how armor and magic pen works nor how pen works... you exaggerating isn't going to make your argument better it just makes it worse

I obviously know more then you or I would be in silver

ZephyrDrakeJan 1, 20191 votes

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I obviously know more then you or I would be in silver

If all you have is my rank then you really have no idea how any of it works. Why are you even comparing full lethality builds to people who build 1 or 2 armor items? You are giving up a lot just to attempt to one shot others. But whatever I am just a silver scrub right?

SS1986Jan 1, 20191 votes

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I have rank on you cause I know more then you most champs can't afford to build more then 1 armor item but that 1 armor item is pointless anyway

ZephyrDrakeJan 1, 20191 votes

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I have rank on you cause I know more then you most champs can't afford to build more then 1 armor item but that 1 armor item is pointless anyway

"Most champions" and by that you mean who? Squishies that shouldn't be building much in the way of defenses anyways? If you need a full item build to invalidate a single armor item then how does lethality need to be nerfed?

"This stat needs to be nerfed because it's doing what is supposed to be doing" is literally what I am getting from you.

Bears Dont CareJan 1, 20194 votes

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I obviously know more then you or I would be in silver

ELO shaming doesn't help you, especially since it is basic math. You just need a high school education to apply it.

Rank is correlated with game damage but it is not causation. Don't be a jerk.

MrHaZeYoJan 1, 20192 votes

That's not how it works lol.

SS1986Jan 1, 20191 votes

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That's not how it works lol.

Ok explain it in gold league terms if they have BC and LD with lethality items

MrHaZeYoJan 1, 20191 votes

200 Armor

Armor reduction, flat Armor reduction, percentage Armor penetration, percentage Lethality

I'll assume you mean with all 3 Leth items, at lv18.

So item 3147 = 21 item 3142 = 18 item 3814 = 18 item 3036 = 35% item 3071 = 4-24%

200 Armor - 0 Armor Reduction, Flat 200 Armor - 24% Armor reduction, percentage 152 Armor - 35% Armor Pen, Percentage 72.96 Armor - 57 Flat armor Pen (Leth) 15.96. Armor remaining.

So ya it drains pretty fast, but the fact that you wanted to use a extreme case with all 5 Armor Pen item when most people only build maybe 2 Leth items and either LD or BC. That's also considering that the tank only built 2 armor items, when in reality a basic tank build is Armor Boots, 1 MR/HP item and 3-4 Armor items (plus base armor)which would put them beyond 300-350 Armor.

Also the Gold Rank shame was funny, seeing how I only go to G5 for the skin then quit playing Ranked Lol. Being Plat doesn't make you a god, or better then everyone else.

SS1986Jan 1, 20191 votes

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200 Armor

Armor reduction, flat Armor reduction, percentage Armor penetration, percentage Lethality

I'll assume you mean with all 3 Leth items, at lv18.

So = 21 = 18 = 18 = 35% = 4-24%

200 Armor - 0 Armor Reduction, Flat 200 Armor - 24% Armor reduction, percentage 152 Armor - 35% Armor Pen, Percentage 72.96 Armor - 57 Flat armor Pen (Leth) 15.96. Armor remaining.

So ya it drains pretty fast, but the fact that you wanted to use a extreme case with all 5 Armor Pen item when most people only build maybe 2 Leth items and either LD or BC. That's also considering that the tank only built 2 armor items, when in reality a basic tank build is Armor Boots, 1 MR/HP item and 3-4 Armor items (plus base armor)which would put them beyond 300-350 Armor.

Also the Gold Rank shame was funny, seeing how I only go to G5 for the skin then quit playing Ranked Lol. Being Plat doesn't make you a god, or better then everyone else.

Accept most good players do build at least 4

MrHaZeYoJan 1, 20191 votes

The only champions I can think of who would build at least 4 of them would be Zed, Talon, Rengo, and Kha'Zix. Maybe AD J4 and Wuk.

The Assassin's should burst you out, and even then they may opt into GA, Maw, Merc, or Hydra. While also the fact when any of the 4 not Zed or Talon are in the jungle they're forced into Warrior which isn't a armor pen item.

The fact Leth scales and doesn't start at the number it says also makes Armor stronger against it early and mid.

SS1986Jan 2, 20191 votes

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The only champions I can think of who would build at least 4 of them would be Zed, Talon, Rengo, and Kha'Zix. Maybe AD J4 and Wuk.

The Assassin's should burst you out, and even then they may opt into GA, Maw, Merc, or Hydra. While also the fact when any of the 4 not Zed or Talon are in the jungle they're forced into Warrior which isn't a armor pen item.

The fact Leth scales and doesn't start at the number it says also makes Armor stronger against it early and mid.

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There is a reason people are saying damage is to high but some of the issue champs did not really get buffed before like why they removed BC stacking before DuskBlade you had 15 flat armor pen that's it now there is 57 flat in items and sudden impact can't remember the exact numbers on it but lets just say 5 low balling 62 compared to the old 15 now most people would be like that's not the worst but wait its an issue cause it works with %pen rly well if you had that 150 armor dropping you to 88 is fine but add in LD now that armor you built to help vs this burst is gone the LD is 52 on 150 so now your at 98-62= 36 and 150 is high balling it as well for most champs with 1 armor item a lot of champs have less then 90 armor at 18 even .

MrHaZeYoJan 2, 20191 votes

I mean, I get what you're saying and I agree on points of it, but again Leth doesn't get to it's full value until lv 16-18, and as a lot of people have complained on forums, games don't typically get that far anymore for that to matter.

I personally don't think Leth and LD should stack with BC. Or Maybe BC should come into the equation later then it does.

Sudden Impact should be removed, and one of the Leth items should have it's Leth removed. Prehaps the other two should have their Leth lowered.