i think shaco is so weak rn his q deals no dmg , his e deals no dmg , and his passive is weak in late game
maybe we can buff his late game by giving his Q ad ratio and lower cd ? maybe we can buff his E and passive ? the only way to play shaco now is crit shaco
anyway any thoughts to buff shaco ?
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i wish winrate actually mattered in "how strong a champ is" for anyone who wants to argue that remember old poppy (biggest dong in the game if played well) but lets compare him to other ad assassins shaco 2shiv PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 50 / 75 / 100 / 125 / 150 (+ 60 / 75 / 90 / 105 / 120% bonus AD) (+ 75% AP) single target slow and HITS more vs low hp Eve Ravage PHYSICAL DAMAGE PER SLASH:» 35 / 55 / 75 / 95 / 115 (+ 50% bonus AD) (+ 50% AP) single target plus on-hits kayne Blade's Reach 80 / 125 / 170 / 215 / 260 (+ 120% bonus AD) AoE and can have cc kha'zix Taste thier fear, increased by 65% against isolated targets.PHYSICAL DAMAGE:»60 / 85 / 110 / 135 / 160 (+ 110% bonus AD) single target Rango Savagery PHYSICAL DAMAGE PER STRIKE: 25 / 45 / 65 / 85 / 105 (+ 20 / 30 / 40 / 50 / 60% bonus AD) Savagery 2 small area but still AoE EMPOWERED ACTIVE: Savagery's total physical damage is increased to 120 - 392 (based on level) Zed Razor Shuriken 70 / 105 / 140 / 175 / 210 (+ 90% bonus AD)Additional shurikens hitting the same enemy only deal 75% damage. ADDITIONAL DAMAGE: 52.5 / 78.75 / 105 / 131.25 / 157.5 (+ 67.5% bonus AD) some dampening but can still hit more than 1 enemy talon (oh boy) Noxian Diplomacy PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 60 / 85 / 110 / 135 / 160 (+ 110% bonus AD) MELEE: (150 + bonus critical strike damage)MINIMUM ENHANCED DAMAGE: 90 / 127.5 / 165 / 202.5 / 240 (+ 165% bonus AD) but wait derz moar Rake PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 50 / 60 / 70 / 80 / 90 (+ 40% bonus AD) RETURN PHYSICAL DAMAGE: 60 / 90 / 120 / 150 / 180 (+ 60% bonus AD) my point is they either get more base damage, some other effect to get more damage or has an insanely low cooldown, yeah it may seam shaco has great scaling on the ability but hes not rewarded with as much power from building lots of ad. ive likely missed other assassins to be included and anyone can chime in to help. i feel whats meant to be strong and used to be worth it is now his weakest ability, its mostly been used as an exrta proc for thunderlords or the slow. give it something else to make it meaningful, more base damage OR (not also) a lower CD or for name sake TWO shiv like a rumble harpoon maybe even a bleed when used behind the target a bit of return from his old passive, or for god sake let it consume his passive and crit too [slayer-pantheon-thumbs]
Honestly, I think Shaco right now is right where Riot wants him to be. It's quite obvious that they don't like him.
no response from riot at all
