Bloodthirster vs Bortk Disccusion

Senpai Ressy··1 votes·1,094 views

I know what they read on paper and I like them both. I'd like know what everyone thinks when deciding between the two whether your playing adc, top or mid. I prefer botrk in in most cases, as the active and passive are too good in most cases while bloodthrister seems to give raw damage, a (imo weak) passive shield , but not enough of any in my opinion.

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Senpai Ressy1 votes

I'd really like to know people's opinion on the subject ._.

DarthSpectrum1 votes

Technically, BoTRK with its passive will out damage Blood-Thrister in terms of raw AA damage if the enemy has more than 1000 health. Anything beyond 1000, BoTRK starts to outshine BT significantly.

Of course, that is why I personally run BoTRK the majority of the times. The active is great for a clutch save, and its build path does not require large purchases. However, BT is better than BoTRK on champions such as Riven who doesn't AA as often, but still have high AD scaling abilities.

I also consider a BT if I am really ahead, have already gotten a BotRK, and if I am a ranged champion. The enemy team will likely focus me in team fights, and the extra life steal and shield can really come in handy.

If I am melee, I would just pick up an hydra. Hydra is probably the BEST lifesteal item in game. It gives great wave clear, a great active, and almost as much AD as a BF item.

In my opinion, BotRK is far more superior than BT. However, both are still great items.

Bobikus Harrikus1 votes

I think It mostly depends on the champion. For example most ADC's are built item 3031 into either item 3087 oritem 3046, what this means is they already have an attack speed item plus item 3006 and therefore they don't need more attack speed but would rather have more damage and the insane amount of lifesteal from item 3072. I think that item 3153 Is better on those champs that benefit from attack speed more that pure damage(Vayne Yasuo Twitch). All these champs scale extremely well off of attack speed whereas a lot of the other champs(Varus Tristana Jinx) either have skills that scale off of AD or have a built in attack speed steroid.

Tis a nice day1 votes

Just curious, but how does yasuo scale off of attack speed better than attack damage?

Sachabot1 votes

His passive gives him a lot of built-in damage once he has a crit item, so AS seems to result in higher DPS overall (more crits). Not that you should build pure AS, but he benefits from it more than some other champions.

Bobikus Harrikus2 votes

Yeah, plus his Q's cooldown is reduce by attack speed, so while he might want more damage behind his insane amount of crits, he can get more of his spells off from attack speed so the benefit from Botrk is slightly greater than that of BT. That is also why people usually build shiv first because the crit and attack speed helps him so much.

Tis a nice day1 votes

Crit benefits AD and AS equally, although Bobby's reply makes a lot of sense since I forgot his Q's CD was reduced by attack speed.

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

Am I the only one who gets them both on more than just occasion? the shield from blood thirster can typically negate a spell cast from a mage while the botrk destroys tanks and the active is good for the small chunk of life steal.

Bobikus Harrikus2 votes

I think that the only reason they aren't both picked many times is because the choice comes to either have the other lifesteal item you don't already have or build a health/resistance item. Therefore, in many cases people would rather have a banshees because it gets a guaranteed spell block and gives them more max health and mr to survive compared to either a active that steals health or a temporary shield.

the Anarchit3cht1 votes

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I think that the only reason they aren't both picked many times is because the choice comes to either have the other lifesteal item you don't already have or build a health/resistance item. Therefore, in many cases people would rather have a banshees because it gets a guaranteed spell block and gives them more max health and mr to survive compared to either a active that steals health or a temporary shield.

valid point on the banshees, especially in regards to cc spells.

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