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Yorick is in terrible state.

KglaSlayer··16 votes·2,634 views

With the latest PBE update and the 4 new A.F skins that are currently in work, I still can't believe Yorick is neglected over and over again. This was the case with Skarner at first, but eventually- he was given a pretty great legendary skin, so it was definitely worth waiting for. Evelynn is in even worse state aswell, but at least she got some gameplay tweaks and even a 750 skin to keep things fresh. But I can't imagine how selfish you can be to make Yorick banned from rotation. -Approximately 80% of players worldwide never got to try him out. -He's broken, his ult makes no sense. And next to Urgot, probably the most underrated champion out there.

I know MAJOR rework has been announced, but it's been more than a year since the last update. At least give him a new splash art, or some changes in passive that can make Yorick players happy for once. Best case scenario, new skin or a VU.

I hate seeing all these random champions getting new splashes and stuff. I would've said the same thing about Poppy, but at least we know she's being worked on.

Riot, please take this into consideration.

30 Comments

JedenVojak6 votes

But... I like Yorick's abilities and they all make sense.

You have the healy ghoul, the slowy ghoul, and the you-go-fasty ghoul. You don't have to tell them to do anything, which makes sense, since they're not a pack of well trained dogs but flesh eating monsters who just run after the other guy.

Also I really like his ult because it's more man power like his other abilities and it's useful in multiple scenarios: Use it on yourself when getting ganked to even up the odds, use it on the tank(yes the tank) just before he dies to get a whole new tank back, use it on the carry to get their damage multiplied, and if they get instabursted - BAM more killy time.

If there was one problem I've had about Yorick, it's that it feels like his ghouls move really slowly most of the time, so if the enemy gets far enough away they just kinda escape without you being able to get to them, or maybe it's just the slowy ghoul doesn't slow enough.

Crett3 votes

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But... I like Yorick's abilities and they all make sense.

You have the healy ghoul, the slowy ghoul, and the you-go-fasty ghoul. You don't have to tell them to do anything, which makes sense, since they're not a pack of well trained dogs but flesh eating monsters who just run after the other guy.

Also I really like his ult because it's more man power like his other abilities and it's useful in multiple scenarios: Use it on yourself when getting ganked to even up the odds, use it on the tank(yes the tank) just before he dies to get a whole new tank back, use it on the carry to get their damage multiplied, and if they get instabursted - BAM more killy time.

If there was one problem I've had about Yorick, it's that it feels like his ghouls move really slowly most of the time, so if the enemy gets far enough away they just kinda escape without you being able to get to them, or maybe it's just the slowy ghoul doesn't slow enough.

have you fought yorick before? i have

just massacres you when you get too close, and then watches you slowly limp to your tower, ignited, slowed and demoralized, chugging his crystalline flask while spamming /laugh

JedenVojak1 votes

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have you fought yorick before? i have

just massacres you when you get too close, and then watches you slowly limp to your tower, ignited, slowed and demoralized, chugging his crystalline flask while spamming /laugh

I have, it's what convinced me to buy him in the first place.

Although he has kind of a weird paradigm in that, he murders people who stand and fight him, but can't do anything about people running away.

Crett3 votes

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I have, it's what convinced me to buy him in the first place.

Although he has kind of a weird paradigm in that, he murders people who stand and fight him, but can't do anything about people running away.

he's obnoxious to lane against i saw that riven was powerful when ahead but at the same time she's so ANNOYING lol seeing what riven was like when ahead and that design philosophy singlehandedly deterred me from ever considering playing her i wouldn't wish fighting a good riven on anyone. even if she was counterpicked. and that's kinda how i feel about yorick, except you can't even counter him lol you can only really go even

Tourian1 votes

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I have, it's what convinced me to buy him in the first place.

Although he has kind of a weird paradigm in that, he murders people who stand and fight him, but can't do anything about people running away.

You cant even CS under tower if you're melee around him.

WeFlyNoLie5 votes

I don't really see the connection between Gameplay updates and new skins being released as these are two completely different teams.

I'd rather they don't give him a bandage fix and a new splash art as that isn't going to make me play him again. His kit just isn't any good, by any terms. It needs a FULL rework to be balance-able. If they buff his numbers, his laning phase becomes ridiculous. His teamfight potential is just so low because of the way his ultimate works. Its like an ultimate that wants to be a Zilean ult but just isn't. It brings you back from the dead sure, but to actually make use of the 5vs6 potential, you need to use it when they have a good amount of health...but if they have a good amount of health, they shouldn't really die, right? So then the chance of them being 'zombified' is pretty low. Its just not satisfying to use.

When Yorick first game out, he was ridiculous. There was a saying "Yorick walks into a bar, but there's no counter" for a reason. Because he was so oppressive, there wasn't anybody who could stand up to him in lane. (Nunu could almost go even because he could Consume Yorick's Ghouls, but it really didn't help.) They lowered his numbers so hard he became unviable.

So while I'm not disagreeing that yes, Yorick's been in the gutter for quite some time, and the recent mana regen changes they have made haven't helped him either. (He's incredibly mana hungry in order to lane effectively) I believe Riot is working on him and really shouldn't try to do anything until they have a true gameplay update planned because he desperately needs one.

Kingsgrave3 votes

He is banned from rotation because he is by far the most frustrating champion to lane against

They are buffing Urgot slightly despite how hard he is to balance properly, but I don't think they can do that with Yorick. He is far too volatile. The most they could do is buff up his Q since its the only skill that directly requires him to hit you.

Blackmage91 votes

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He is banned from rotation because he is by far the most frustrating champion to lane against

I disagree when a certain ninja exist.Zed

Remlap12234 votes

Don't even fucking go there. I hate Zed with a passion ATM, but he is BALANCEABLE. Yorick cannot, and will never be balanced with his current kit. If you don't believe me, invite me to a game, you can pick any champion you want against Yorick. I'll bet you all of the upcoming April Fool's skins that you won't win your lane against me, and I don't even play Yorick that often (although I consider myself better than the other 3 players who use him.)

HeadHonchkrow2 votes

Balance, is a fool's master

Cuz19722 votes

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(although I consider myself better than the other 3 players who use him.)

That made me chuckle.

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Picks Vladimir, proceeds to get five free skins. (No seriously, Vlad shits on Yorick)

Saminus Maximus1 votes

Vlad, Nunu, Chogath all can bully Yorrick in lane. Riven, Trundle, Nasus can all kill Yorrick 1v1 mid game as long as they didn't fall massively behind. And if you want to talk about the absolute ruler of 1v1's i point you squarely in the direction of a good Caitlyn.

Remlap12231 votes

I have no idea why it's downvoted. Probably from a Yorick main looking for freelo. All 50 players in the game total who have actually faced a Yorick knows this to be true. Cynical is right, HE IS BANNED FROM ROTATION BECAUSE OF HOW TOXIC HE IS. RIOT HAS FLAT OUT CONFIRMED IT IN WRITING.

DragoonRuin3 votes

I have to disagree. Yorick is a lane bully, yes. But that's about all he is. Unless you make really bad decisions against him, he has very little early/mid kill potential. Plus he's gated heavily by mana until he gets a tear.

Other laners like Yasuo, and Zed have more wave clear, more poke, and infinitely more kill potential than a Yorick. How is he MORE frustrating to lane against than a Zed or Yasuo, or even a Bunny Hopping Kallista ?

flibitydoo4 votes

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I have to disagree. Yorick is a lane bully, yes. But that's about all he is. Unless you make really bad decisions against him, he has very little early/mid kill potential. Plus he's gated heavily by mana until he gets a tear.

Other laners like Yasuo, and Zed have more wave clear, more poke, and infinitely more kill potential than a Yorick. How is he MORE frustrating to lane against than a Zed or Yasuo, or even a Bunny Hopping Kallista ?

If I throw poke back at any of the champions you have listed, then they have to pot up (or stay low on hp).

If I throw poke at Yorick, he presses E once on me with a targeted ability and heals all the harass I worked hard to dish out.

It's frustrating to deal with just like Heimerdinger is. Unlike Heimerdinger, this guy is actually tanky because unholy covenant is a straight up "15% less damage taken, and 15% more damage dealt" when in combat with the guy, and because his E grants him so much sustain.

As far as mana gating goes, Most Yoricks I face go flask, which replenishes mana. Some even forgo health potions in favour of mana because of how effective Omen of Famine is.

And once Yorick does get tear, there's no forcing this guy out of lane. there's no winning trades. He's going to sustain it up and throw ghouls at you.

Remlap12231 votes

You actually answered your own question. He's offers even less to a game than Teemo does. He literally only serves to annoy the enemy top laner into rage quitting because of you literally needing 2 people in lane to even shove him out once he builds tear due to his built in sustain and indirect playstyle. Despite this, he offers absolute nothing to teamfights. At least Teemo has his global ult cheese going for him that causes enemy champions to crap themselves every time they walk into their jungle, Yorick ults the carry, and then does absolutely nothing. Riot themselves called him a "win lane, lose game" champion. It's about as accurate as you can get.

So not only does he frustrate the enemy team with how you cannot meaningfully play against him (A popular joke on his release was that Yorick walks into a bar, there's no counter), but he frustrates his own team with how little he makes use of the many kills he's almost guaranteed to get top lane. At least Shaco can split push and blow up squishy targets. At least Teemo has godly objective control. At least Pantheon can shred armor and blow up squshies. At least Karma has godly utility. Yorick literally has nothing.

Oh, I almost forgot the most important thing, he frustrates YOU with how ungodly boring he is to play.

jmaishere1 votes

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You actually answered your own question. He's offers even less to a game than Teemo does. He literally only serves to annoy the enemy top laner into rage quitting because of you literally needing 2 people in lane to even shove him out once he builds tear due to his built in sustain and indirect playstyle. Despite this, he offers absolute nothing to teamfights. At least Teemo has his global ult cheese going for him that causes enemy champions to crap themselves every time they walk into their jungle, Yorick ults the carry, and then does absolutely nothing. Riot themselves called him a "win lane, lose game" champion. It's about as accurate as you can get.

So not only does he frustrate the enemy team with how you cannot meaningfully play against him (A popular joke on his release was that Yorick walks into a bar, there's no counter), but he frustrates his own team with how little he makes use of the many kills he's almost guaranteed to get top lane. At least Shaco can split push and blow up squishy targets. At least Teemo has godly objective control. At least Pantheon can shred armor and blow up squshies. At least Karma has godly utility. Yorick literally has nothing.

Oh, I almost forgot the most important thing, he frustrates YOU with how ungodly boring he is to play.

well, that's not entirely true, a fed yorick can split push like mad, especially after ulting himself

Fried Noob2 votes

Yorick is removed from the champion rotation because Riot acknowledges that Yorick can never be a good champion with his current kit, so they made him worthless and put him in a dark, dusty corner. So, don;t expect anything more than a TU for him, since Riot doesn't like to draw attention to Champions that are just all around bad and need a major rework to make them good (See Eve and Twitch pre-rework).

SpecterVonBaren1 votes

Riot: Good.

Yorick Players: :(

Tannhäuser Gate1 votes

InvertedComposer: HEHEHEHEHE

KglaSlayer1 votes

Most of you are missing the point. I want Yorick to get either a VU/splash or a new skin to keep the things fresh, not necessarily change his entire kit.

I'm not trying to push his rework, I'm basically saying that he is neglected. I bought Pentakill skin a couple of months ago, and when I decide to pick Yorick, I usually get hate comments from 'retard' to 'troll'. So yeah, that's my point.

No one really knows his true potential. That's what I'm angry about, and how do they expect for people to start playing him when he's banned from rotation?

Makes no sense.. Peace.

Silents4291 votes

Approximately 80% of players worldwide never got to try him out.

And that isn't a bad thing, I can't imagine the hell it would be to spend a week of crappy Yorick players.

He's broken, his ult makes no sense.

He isn't broken, his ult makes perfect sense. Ult the carry 5v6 Ult yourself in duals 2v1 Ult hypercarry in teamfights and revive them to do more damage beyond the grave

Seems fine.

And next to Urgot, probably the most underrated champion out there.

Calling them broken and in a terrible state is pretty contradicting when you call them underrated now. I play a lot of Yorick, He needs some changes, but he isn't helpless, or in much less of a state then any of the other old non mobile champions we have. We all look forward to his rework and VU, but I am not really caring about when it's done. I would prefer Poppy's bullshit got fixed, and Warwick got updated so I can go back to jungling him.

HumanPerfect1 votes

{quoted} I know MAJOR rework has been announced, but it's been more than a year since the last update.

This is false. We got an update last December to tell us that Yorick's rework was put on ice. Thanks Riot.

Renegen1 votes

Yorick is far more than just a lane bully, I build him like Inverted Composer does and he's a ton of fun to play and he's still good late game. He won't dive ad carries, but he's not meant for that. And his ult is IMO his best skill, that Vayne/Yi will just tear everyone apart. He's also not in a terrible state with a win rate a little below 50%.

git gud

JumbaJoopleakley1 votes

I had actually been waiting for Yorick to go free to try him out, then I learned a few weeks ago he hadn't been on the rotation for years. I guess if you want to get rid of a champ in a game where you can't do it, this is a pretty effective means.

Economicz1 votes

I find many champs more frustrating to play against than yorick

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

They know this, and they have their resources fully dedicated to other projects. He will get to the top of the list evnetually.

Fasmodey1 votes

Yorick got some number changes and after that happened he is in oblivion now. If he gets some buffs that is about number changes again (but in buff way), he can turn his throne but without being healthy. He needs full rework.

lojician1 votes

Yorick is cancer but I want him back so I can counter-cancer all the guys abusing ranged tops.

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