Cursed account and the losers pool

Jin Air Cpt Jack··29 votes·11,744 views

Cursed accounts, or a losers pool. such a thing must exist. I have about 7 smurfs, all of which have 80+ winrates, i have no problem winning games, i get good and bad teamates. HOWEVER.

Once i get on my main, every, single, game, the teamates i get are unfathomably bad, stupid, trolling, and so on. Point being, its people who dont want to win, dont have the ability to, or simply just troll.

Why is this happening ONLY on one account? Around same elos for all.

36 Comments

Lord Scorch 623 votes

i only have a main account, and just about 80% of my games i win lane but still lose, or i lose lane because mid/bot lost theirs and the laners started too roam.

you are not alone, its just the shit-ass-fuck ranking system right now.

Jin Air Cpt Jack9 votes

its like only on ONE account, it dosent make sense

SuicidePlank5 votes

No, it's toplane. You have the least impact in early - mid and that is where things are decided these days. Toplane is one of the hardest lanes to climb rightnow because of said reasons, but hey, why should Riot think about top?

R107 Games12 votes

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why should Riot think about top?

To prevent Hashinshin from contemplating suicide

Pigfoot3 votes

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No, it's toplane. You have the least impact in early - mid and that is where things are decided these days. Toplane is one of the hardest lanes to climb rightnow because of said reasons, but hey, why should Riot think about top?

Ok Hashinshin, but for real top feels bad man.

SuicidePlank3 votes

That's not even something Hashinshin said, it's what almost every high elo player says, even faker says that top is the least impactfull role.

Pigfoot1 votes

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That's not even something Hashinshin said, it's what almost every high elo player says, even faker says that top is the least impactfull role.

It was a joke, and I was agreeing with the guy. Soothe your milk sacks bud.

SuicidePlank1 votes

I was that guy and people do react like that in all seriousness when others complain about top being shit, so next time make clear you are joking.

Pigfoot1 votes

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I was that guy and people do react like that in all seriousness when others complain about top being shit, so next time make clear you are joking.

But it was obviously a joke, I continued with, "but for real top feels bad man." Which would imply that anything before the, "but for real" was the joke. Sorry you didn't understand a simple comment.

The thigh guy1 votes

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Ok Hashinshin, but for real top feels bad man.

Play renekton, Jax, Nasus or Kled and get back to me.

floo1 votes

Idk man. Seen enough Riven's 1v3 their way through my team.

BlueSmurf20181 votes

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i only have a main account, and just about 80% of my games i win lane but still lose, or i lose lane because mid/bot lost theirs and the laners started too roam.

you are not alone, its just the shit-ass-fuck ranking system right now.

U lose lane nobody else lost it for you <3

5050BS3 votes

I am 100% convinced that once an account is over 100 or so Ranked games on it, Riot locks it to that Rank

I too have a smurf that I an climbing in and getting much better Match making then my main.

My Main is CONSTANTLY getting AFKer and flat out trolls. Often I will go 15/3 by 20m while my team is all 2/12 The games I get are 100% not possible to carry.

BigFBear1 votes

I think it has to do with their weird matchmaking algorithm. For example in season 8 I was Plat 1 with 56% winrate and so I got teammates with a similar winrate. Now in S9 i climbed in the same Elo but then tested a few new item and rune builds. Because of that I dropped on a negative 49% winrate and now I often got teammates with negative winrate too. On the one hand i can understand that the system want to put same skill level together on the other hand it can end in an endless cycle. You have bad luck or a bad day and make a giant losing streak and now you are negative winrate and can't escape it because system match you with bad players all day. On the other hand you can get a giant winning streak and suddenly you find yourself at 60%+ winrate and system match you with other high winrate players who carry you even higher.

Jin Air Cpt Jack1 votes

youd think so, but the smurfs with 80% winrate get matched with 40% winrate people constantly, same as my main

Lord Scorch 621 votes

in that case, it very well be the fact that fucking everyone has terrible MMR in the ELO you are in.

like i went from an 50-55% win rate in silver/bronze, but now i am 33% win rate and hard stuck in silver 4.

its may just be the fact that riot made a shit matchmaking system EVEN WORSE and everyone but the top 1% of players are suffering for it.

shocking and unthinkable, i know. i am just that daring.

Serika Zero1 votes

There's a problem with your conclusion. you assume that you and your team are facing some big and powerful demon king boss, that everyone faces. So higher win rate players will win more and the lower ones will lose more.

What you are actually facing is other people, other teams, of various strengths. ai it makes sense that if most of you got negative win rates, the enemy team, also has negative win rates. So, the better player wins.

BigFBear1 votes

no i dont say that the smurfs etc are everytime on enemy side they are also on my side. Its pretty even! 50/50 But what does it mean? It means that it doesnt matter what I do... because the game is won or lost by a bad balancing matchmaking. It doesnt matter how good i play when enemy has 2 smuirfs and i have 3 unranked bad players. It doesnt matter how BAD i play when i have the Smurfs on my side. And therefore its just gambling with a 50/50 chance to win or lose. But u cant climb with 50%

Serika Zero1 votes

I got 2 accounts. this one, peak Plat 3 Ths other one, peak Plat 5 (also less then 50 games).

On the other account I keep getting matched with silvers in normals. and there's games I can't carry.

So no, it does matter how well you do, because if you are to awful, you can be to hard to carry.

5050BS1 votes

That would be great IF I was not getting matches like this

My Teams over all win rate

46% 48% 45% 52% 49%

Enemies overall win rate

56% 53% 57% 50% 70%

Guess what team won.

Mullaous1 votes

There's alot of speculation that their matchmaking system is fk'd up and will more frequently match you with players who are climbing when you are climbing. It makes no sense, but I've definitely had an easier time in most games on accounts with high win rates than I do playing on ones that have stagnated or dropped below 50%.

hoshizuku1 votes

I have observed similar affects on multiple accounts. It's not that one account is "cursed," in my opinion; it's that the more games you play on the account, the more messed up its MMR gets. That is why once you get to the 50% winrate area or you start gaining/losing the same LP per win/loss, just start a new account. It is easier to climb in ranked on a fresh account that season than to try and get your main up to that rank with a 50% winrate. I kind of suspect that yearly resets contribute to this as well.

I'm talking out of my ass of course, I have no proof for this. It's just my suspicion/theory.

LetMeAfkPlss1 votes

probably your mmr on your main is very inflated I have same issue too I play my main champs only in my main and win games I shouldn't have won otherwise with champs I am inexperienced at also blame rito shitty match making for punishing you for winning

haaaaaaalp1 votes

Because when you have that many accounts, one is bound to be a statistic anomaly.

Clone Is Friend3 votes

boom. and there it is. a useless comment WOW. didnt have to go far

Clone Is Friend1 votes

i had 54% winrate on plat 2 and now i barely have 45% in plat 5 gold 1. and its not like i feed everygame or just do dumb mistakes. i just can't win. might also be the fact shaco got nerfed alot but i never played the op assassin build.

Dr Dog1 votes

been testing that same thing, it took me over a HUNDRED GAMES to get my main back to gold and on my alt im already silver 1 holding a over 70% wr and climbing fast, entire accounts got coinflipped and predetermined this season just look at challenger rn if you need more proof its mostly previous diamond hardstucks

DeathBurst1 votes

Why is this happening ONLY on one account? Around same elos for all.

Because it's the only account you care about, so you stress and tilt more.

WashyMoney1 votes

Very clearly this. You will focus more on teams mistakes and lose conditions if you have some preconceived notion that your account is cursed. Especially if you get a couple games with actual trolls, it will “confirm” your theory and you will probably ignore all evidence against it.

5050BS2 votes

Yep its my view of the account that is bringing the afkers and Flat out Trolls to my mains games.....

That teemo is not running into the enemy base to stealth for the whole game. Its my view of him. Also he is not buying all item 1006 its my view of him.

DeathBurst1 votes

That's not what I said. In fact, it's the opposite. When you are on your smurfs, you don't care about that Teemo and you just play your game, and a week later you won't remember him.

I'm not saying your view make trolls spawn on your main, I'm saying there are trolls everywhere and you just don't notice them on your smurfs. Because you don't really care and you're not stressed.

5050BS2 votes

It doe not work that way for me.

My "Smurf" account is in the same Rank as my main. It just gets WAY better Matching. Soon it will be my main because it will have climb higher.

DeathBurst1 votes

I did not say anything about Rank. I talked about caring. And your impression is that it gets better Matching, I can believe that, but where does this impression comes from?

It can be because there is actually different matching, or it can be because of bias. That's not an insult, we are all biased, it's just how our brains function. But pardon me, I think it's much more likely your impression comes from bias than from the system actually having different matching systems. One homogeneous matchmaking is already hard enough to do. Having various algorithms working in parallel sounds awfully impractical, and for what gain? Why would Riot bother to do that?

Bishasaurus Flex1 votes

If this was the case, everyone would lose all the time, which is illogical.

Marian Cross1 votes

How about you climb on the smurf to find out hint: its probably not some magic riot curse

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