Why talon is the only assasin that has no reliable gap closer?

HAKISHAA··8 votes·740 views

I noticed that many assasins have multiple gap closing abilities but looks like talon only has short ranged dash and its rly i mean rly short range.When u look at someone like Fizz he can close a gap with his Q and his E,Zed W and R,Kata has her blink,Shaco can blink and be invisible at same time,Akali can triple dash to the target,Ekko has his e only but he brings a lot of cc with that w stun and q slow also his passive gives him ms,Rengar has his ult and cc ability with his e,Kha can reset his e,LB can even double W with her ult,Nocturne has his ult, and when u look all those assasins they can rly easy get to their target while Talon struggles with that. Ofc i dont say he is the worst assasin he still has his e and can roam rly fast also he can be invis with his ult , his lane phase in not that bad but problem is when u need to go in on the enemy carry if they have F or some mobility they will just use it and talon will not have anything to catch up to them ofc if they are in jungle then there is no escape from talon but that is just 2 situational for someone that is assasin. Using his q to close a gap is giving up on some damage and u dash right in front of your target its not blink u are not untargetable so that means if u are not using ur ult to engage u will most likely to be cc-ed and killed. What do u guys think does talon need some real gap closing ability? IMO he needs something more to be usefull in those quick assasinations.

12 Comments

Wukong Airlines10 votes

Funny how now everyone will act like a Talon pro when he has lots of weaknesses more than strengths. It's not about what he has, its about why he didn't receive as QoL buffs. I have over 1M points with Talon. most people will tell you he has "E parkour" and leave it right there empty with no argument.

Problem is with warding and the more you climb in Elo, anyone can counter Talon mid air parkour His Q has a short range and if you dont use the Melee range damage you kinda lose much dmg output. Talon already lost much after the rework:

  1. -15 MS
  2. -15% damage enhancement from his previous [E]
  3. Q used to be a great splitpushing ability on towers and inhibs
  4. W used to slow both ways. now it slows on its way back only, and slow reduced to 1 sec from 2, lost width too in exchange for insignificant range
  5. his AOE damage which made him a niche assassin pick was lost as well in exchange for his new passive which ALSO requires AA to be activated after applying 3 wounds, know that if you apply your whole kit combo you should be able to apply your passive almost 2 times, but after activating the passive wounds stop stacking for 2 seconds and this wasnt mentioned in his passive.

anyways, proper fix should be either add more range on his Q , or Allow talon to press Q mid air while jumping walls.

HAKISHAA1 votes

His roaming can be countered by couple of deep wards and ofc when enemy team knows that they are playing vs talon they will play passive and dont give him the chance to roam. I rly liked old talon he was so fast and smooth to play.After the rework he just feels to slow delay on his w and the fact that it does not slow the enemy on first hit gives them chance to dodge it and its not reliable cc tool at all. His q has rly small range and i think it would be fair if they would give back the slow on first hit on w or if they increased the q range after he uses his e.

nm10107 votes

Flank with E my boy.

OurLestrade4 votes

Mega map mobility trade off, perfectly fine

Çhåryzård2 votes

Because if he's going after you in a place with walls he can literally just jump over multiple walls and even if you flash there's no way you can get away from him

Naching1 votes

{quoted}

Because if he's going after you in a place with walls he can literally just jump over multiple walls and even if you flash there's no way you can get away from him

Yeah but Kayn can do it with his R and Q.

nm10101 votes

Mobi boots Talon with some other out of combat speed boosts can cross the entire map in about 20 seconds.

Çhåryzård1 votes

{quoted}

Yeah but Kayn can do it with his R and Q.

True, but Kayn is garbage rn lol

The Leo Cat2 votes

Uh... because Talon can fricken parkour over terrain? The only real cool down on that ability is you're not allowed to jump over the same wall for about two minutes. Lets not forget ranged attacks.

SparksFFF1 votes

Rengar ?

1011001110002 votes

Nonono, Rengar is a "Diver", not an assassin. Rito said so.

KuroCaliber1 votes

Because he's not supposed to jump to you, he's"supposed" to jump over walls to catch you out and more often than not use the q CRIT.

More from Gameplay