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Joke, did I said Patch 9.11? Sorry, Joke.

Mowgli IV·5/29/2019, 8:20:50 PM·25 votes·9,583 views

Patch 9.11 is a JOKE! An incredible number of irrelevant changes, even nerfs to heroes who were not strong at all. We waited for 3 months in season 6, if I remember well that Graves got a nerf. In the last season, we had a case with Zoe, which was OP for half a season. And what's happening now? Rammus and Amumu get a nerf after just a month of being "viable" picks. Yeah, PantsAreDragon started playing them in Challenger NA, but we already could conclude that some of some players don't belong there. If some challenger player start playing them more often, that doesn't mean that they are OP or strong at all. Yes, their winrate may be 53% + but that doesn't mean that heroes are stronger than they should be, this may mean that 53% of the player base are not familiar with the existence of the item called QSS.item 3140

As for Amumu , your buff did not made a difference, it's a cinderhulk change that made him better. Yes, a few high elo players started playing hybrid ap / tank, but Amumu as Amumu is not much stronger than Sejuani for example.

Both, Amumu and Rammus have their weaknesses, and struggle in early game, you don't need to nerf champions if 90% of player base is not familiar with existence of invades.

Zac revert is also a joke, so now you've turned Zac from being a really nice tanky initiator to AP JOKE, "Gragas wannabe", but instead of throwing casks to your job you need to throw yourself in the enemy team and try to survive long enough to full combo, and probably deal half the damage that Gragas would have done anyway. WHY ?! Why would you turn the champions from being a tanky initiator to the AP assassin? Is there any point? His kidnapp ultimate is just so unique, why would you ever turn it back to Gragas ultimate v2.0?

Conclusion: Please do not touch any jungler items anymore, because everytime you buff some type of it, the next 10 patches you try to adjust those changes by nerfing champions like Rammus and Amumu. These champions weren't viable picks for last 2 years. These changes were totally unnecessary, hopefully you will revert them, because if someone can't buy QSS, they don't even deserve to win against Rammus. Also, if you want so desperately new AP jungler, make it, do not change tanks into AP jokes.

Btw, Hecarim with conqueror is still in the game, but existace of Amumu and Rammus is obviously too much. Seems "OKAY" to me. [zombie-brand-mindblown]

93 Comments

PolarEclipse5/29/2019, 9:15:21 PM22 votes

You don't want rammus to be nerfed, while he and nunu is your most played in ranked, both with over 60% winrate?

Hmmmmmmmmmmm, nothing biased about this at all, no sir.

Rammus deserves a nerf, and so does many other champions, time time frame of how long it took for other champions to be nerfed is 100% Irrelevant, He deserved one, so he got one. People will still kill themselves if they are attacking you.

jordanlourens15/29/2019, 8:53:30 PM14 votes

True, better nerf Rammus than Hecarim LOL!

MyAccountStolen15/29/2019, 9:50:34 PM10 votes

the ease of playing rammus and amumu... they dont deserve to be this strong.....

ModAcademy Kayn5/30/2019, 2:11:32 AM5 votes

We're reaching Peak BoardsThink now.

Critmaster Garen5/29/2019, 11:17:34 PM4 votes

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Pandemic Punch5/29/2019, 8:56:21 PM4 votes

I CANT WAIT for Zac. He was one of my most played before they turned his ultimate to trash. The only thing I don't like about it is the change to his W. Building AP isn't optimal and having to build 200 AP JUST to get the W to where it currently is on live is kind of ridiculous. Still worth it though. I can't wait to have good ol Zac back!!!!!!!!!!!!!

lolipopevelynn5/29/2019, 9:18:13 PM4 votes

wait, are they really nerfing amumu? LOL.

The thigh guy5/29/2019, 10:06:49 PM4 votes

Riot had to nerf them. 2 tanks viable at the same time? Not in 2019!

Z3Sleeper5/30/2019, 12:21:33 AM3 votes

Akali and Jayce nerf, as a top laner, this patch pleases me.

A Chaotic Mind5/30/2019, 12:46:43 AM2 votes

And what's happening now? and Amumu get a nerf after just a month of being "viable" picks. Yeah, PantsAreDragon started playing them in Challenger NA, but we already could conclude that some of some players don't belong there. If some challenger player start playing them more often, that doesn't mean that they are OP or strong at all. Yes, their winrate may be 53% + but that doesn't mean that heroes are stronger than they should be, this may mean that 53% of the player base are not familiar with the existence of the item called QSS.

the fucking mental gymnastic on this one imagine if riven/yasuo had a 53% winrate how hard would you cry for a nerf. oh wait tta was literally 2 weeks ago

Glaricion5/30/2019, 12:47:46 AM1 votes

Mu does deserve to be toned down slightly. He bursts pretty hard for having such strong semi-reliable CC.

Is hilarious though that Mu and Rammus are getting hit so soon after becoming relevant. Like, 25% damage off of Rammus' ult base damage at every level, really? How long did it take for Riven and Vayne to be touched, and with less?

As for "their winrates!" though... They are incredibly flat mastery curved champions with reliable cc, of course they're going to have large winrates. If Yuumi, Azir, Akali, Singed... take about a dozen games just to become decent with, other champions who you can almost safely first time with'll necessarily be picking up the slack.

Zac and a lot of the other changes look fine though. (giff old Karma)

SirHydro5/30/2019, 7:03:22 PM1 votes

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