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OP much...?

Pyme··2 votes·1,247 views

so just a few thoughts.... Nid's spear... FAR TOO STRONG especially with its redonkulous range.... Blitz's grab pull is waaaaaaayyyy to long range. its is completely redonkulous aswell. and these are not the only champs with such skills that are completely OP and i will not bother trying to list them all. I suppose my point is that many champs (some that definitely did not need it like FIORA which i and MANY OTHER PLAYERS COMPLETELY HATE NOW) are being rework or remade, when in all reality the ones that truly need a nerf or rework continue to sit and make the game UN-enjoyable when picked. im not saying that Nid needs to be reworked. im saying that her spear need to be nerfed substantially. its quite stupid that she can throw such an attack, hit a tank and do half his health in damage. i mean its not like she does not already do tons of damage without the gods forsaken spear. Perhaps instead of completely revamping champs who do not need it, you should focus on balancing champs that do...

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iBubbles2 votes

I stopped reading after blitz tbh. Those both are very good moves but terribly easy to dodge. If you are someone who has problems dodging just sit behind minions, its really not that hard.

SymbolicFear1 votes

I kinda agree that Nidalee's spear needs a nerf, albeit there is no need for it to be substantial. Low Cost, High Range, Insane Damage, and Low Cooldown are a bit too much. Its basically as if Viktor had a 3 second cooldown on his laser, yeah you could dodge it, but the spear can be spammed(especially since there is no penalty for it missing) and odds are, one will hit you, then Nid will insta kill you by turning cougar, jumping, and executing you. Its rather sad to see a champion that has such an overstuffed kit not need half of it to carry a game.

I personally find some champions to just be a bit overdone and Nidalee and her spear are one of those things.

iBubbles1 votes

I agree with the cd on her spear, if someone is actually good with nid and hits their spear consistently it does become a big issue. But, most of the nids i have gone against are super easy to dodge. The spear doesnt move that fast and if you move to the side of it ( not away or toward) then you can usually dodge with ease.

Lugg1 votes

Blitz's grab is not easy to dodge. In fact the only way to avoid it is with a flash or dash. I play Blitz all the time and the only time someone doesn't get pulled in is if I miss the shot or they flash/dash.

iBubbles1 votes

If you are not behind minions and it looks like a blitz is about to pull you start running in all kinds of directions ( with no pattern) and most of the time they will miss.

Lugg1 votes

But all he has to do is hit 1 out of 10 and you are screwed.

Diatonix2 votes

This applies almost perfectly to your choice of complaints on these skillshots

https://youtu.be/JaKo3g19E9Y?t=20

SymbolicFear1 votes

When a skill shot is spammed, odds are, one is going to land. Regardless of how good the target is. XD

I can dodge 9/10 skillshots, but sometimes one just gets the drop on me from the jungle or something and that's when I get screwed over.

Fiveofswords1 votes

k then...you dodge 9/10 times. so pretend the spear isnt a skillshot but does 1/10th the damage. now how scarey does it look?

SymbolicFear1 votes

Im not saying the ability needs to be nerfed into the ground as I stated previously in another post. It just needs to have the ratio lowered by maybe .05 and keep it from deleting like it does now. When a champion has 7 abilities, yet only uses 4 of said abilities, then there is an issue.

iKaneki iKen2 votes

Bro, if you're in point blank range of it, it will do significantly less damage. But if you're at the very tip of it's flight range and it hits, of course it's going to deal massive damage, but here's the thing, it is slow, that's the tradeoff, it's easy to dodge and there's clear indication that the spear is being thrown. Sorry, but this topic is invalid, Nidalee is fine the way she is, no nerf to the spear is needed. Same with Blitz, stay behind Minions and you're fine. Truth be told, you sound like an inexperienced/unskilled player that is complaining simply because you're getting outplayed by either skilled player or a veteran player.

Pyme1 votes

and yes, i understand that many of these champs require a skilled summoner to pull off these moves, but much like a person playing tryn, if the player has a few matches of practice, they can turn around and make a match SOOOO one sided that the game becomes nothing but frustration rather than good fun.

AChanceOfReign1 votes

I'm still going to play Fiora Jungle, she's been nerf a small bit to where (hopefully) she wouldn't be banned as near as 5.17 :I

Pyme1 votes

Fiora was just an example. i personally dislike her new skills COMPLETELY. in all honesty i will NEVER play her again if i can avoid it. Its quite disappointing as i really enjoyed Fiora. Wish you could sell back your champs. (NUNU FIORA AND MANY OTHERS) Im honestly just hoping to see less complete reworks (which always have issues afterwards Darius for example), and more fixes to champs who are fine as is, just a little OP in one skill or another

Diatonix1 votes

Also, maybe instead of complaining about champions that ARE NOT currently overpowered in the meta, you should simply learn and understand the game a little better, and you will not have as many issues with them.

Diatonix1 votes

Ekko Leblanc Fizz Darius Garen Fiora Irelia Vayne Elise

Yeah, but the nerfed-into-the-dirt nidalee is the problem here

Fiveofswords1 votes

nid spear...damage is zero if you just move. blitz, same...its harder to dodge blitz grab cause its faster but not impossible and you can always use minions to shield you.

Lugg1 votes

Good luck dodging when it comes out of the fog.

Fiveofswords1 votes

ward? dont stand so close to fog? yes nidalee and blitz abuse walls part of the tactics for using them. I remember dealing with these champs BEFORE everyone got free trinkets. Just play better man i dont know

Lugg1 votes

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dont stand so close to fog?

Nid has 1500 range on her spear. What are you going to do, stay in base all game?

Diatonix1 votes

Ward

Diatonix1 votes

I could sit here and say, "it is so unfair that that guy outplayed me; It isn't possible for me to do what I need to do to win because I am not mechanically skilled enough; It's so unfair that I got grabbed over that wall when I was out of position," but the underlying issue there would be that I need to practice and learn so that I can get better at the game and not have problems with things that aren't even overpowered in the current meta

Tworie1 votes

They do a ton of damage against squishies, but not tanks, and they're pretty hard to land from far away 'cause they move so slow that you could just easily side step them. That, and the spears are a skillshot - hard emphasis on skill there. Soooo no.... no nerfs needed here.

Diatonix1 votes

So, anything that does damage suddenly should be removed? You people need to come to the understanding that things kill each other. Learn the game and quit complaining about anything that does damage to you. Why aren't you all bitching about LeBlanc and Zed 4 shotting you, or darius hitting you with a q and doing 1400 true damage?

Pyme1 votes

I'd like to point out AGAIN that i used those champs for example. There are plenty of champ that could use a tune up. Thats exactly what im trying to get at. Instead of COMPLETELY reworking, many champs just need some fine tune and "rebalancing". Before you start being a super troll take the context of the content

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