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A more flexible idea for Sylas' ult

Arx77·1/12/2019, 7:31:02 PM·13 votes·9,544 views

Good day!

Like many people I've been looking at Sylas and thinking about his kit. Now I don't think that we should already complain about his numbers being too high while he's still in the pbe, though I wanted to make a suggestion about his new ultimate.

The thing is: I have been looking forward for a hero like this to be introduced into League for years, seeing as Rubick was my favorite character to have ever existed in any kind of MOBA. So now my question is... why can Sylas only steal ults? The thing about Rubick that makes him so much fun to play is the fact that he can copy the last spell your enemy used and not just your ultimate. Why doesn't Sylas work like that? It would come with several advantages:

Firstly, it would allow his enemies some counterplay, which would make it so much less frustrating to play against him

Secondly, he would be able to steal a wider variety of spells, allowing him to be so much more flexible and interesting to play

Thirdly, and maybe most importantly, it would make him feel SO MUCH BETTER! It would be so incredibly satisfying when you finally manage to steal the ult you wanted. It would require timing and skill and positioning to get what you want. Additionally the whole theme would be so much more interesting. He would actually feel like a spell slining mage who throws his enemies' spells back at them because he has to wait for them to actually cast them. Now it's basically just "Oh I guess I'll take this now" without any interaction between the champions.

Of course these changes would need the casttime of the ult to be low, and probably the cooldown early would have to be adjusted and the individual cooldown per enemy removed, but other than that I can't help but feel that this change would make him better to play in so many aspects?

What do you think? Did I not consider something? I'd really love to hear a reason why this wouldn't be a good idea.

Have a great day! Arx77

26 Comments

Fízz v21/12/2019, 7:56:22 PM6 votes

Idk but in terms of playing Sylas, I think I prefer his current ult tbh. being able to steal everything would make him a lot harder to balance and weirder to play

Snarf of thunder1/12/2019, 7:45:22 PM3 votes

Well even if it was a great idea, what makes you think riot will even pay attention to this? They do their own things, communitys are just for players to describe the anger for riots incompetence.

lollordFrozen1/12/2019, 8:10:20 PM3 votes

How about we stuff Rubik into a teddy bear suit and smuggle him into league!

Sire Hippington1/13/2019, 12:34:55 AM2 votes

I think that would be a great idea and a potential way to balance him. Right now, with free choice between 5 ults, he will be broken unless his base kit sucks, in which case he will feel bad to play. There are many Insane ults that get baalnced by a medicore base kit, if you can acces them easily without paying for it with the rest of you're kit, it's absurd. Haveing the rubik mechanic would mean you#re opponents have more controll over when you can acces their ult and by quickly casting another spell afterwards they cand deny it to you, makeing it not as free to get you're hands on powerfull ults.

Ionian Vulpix1/12/2019, 9:29:08 PM1 votes

It'd probably make him really bad. He doesn't have an ultimate himself, so unless he steals an ability that is just as strong or game-changing as an ultimate, and the only one I can think of is Blitz Q, or their ultimate is completely useless to him (Illaoi, Zoe) in which case he shouldn't even bother with theirs, he's better off taking the ultimate anyway.

Sure, there would be some good uses (Zoe Q or E, Blitz Q, Gragas E) but it'd just be way too much to load into one character.

MarkedOfKane1/12/2019, 8:11:42 PM1 votes

The ult is a disappointing imo. I always liked the character style where they use chains or shackles that tied them up to fight, which is what most of hit kit is until his ult which is "He steals the ult lol". It seems like the whole point of it was "Dude, wouldn't it be crazy and shocking to people if there was a character that copies other peoples ultimates? That would be so sick!"

3TWarrior1/13/2019, 3:35:31 AM1 votes

I had an alternative idea. They should change it to be where he steals champion's Q abilities. They're still powerful, but WAY easier to balance and justify

morgana Q, blitzcrank Q, thresh Q, lee sin Q, all powerful, but not game breaking

The Highest Noon1/13/2019, 3:37:49 AM1 votes

My idea is for Sylas to have to receive ult attack for him to be able to use it, say that if his ult is off cooldown, he takes % less affect from enemy ultimates but can recast them himself.

KFCeytron1/13/2019, 11:46:48 AM1 votes

Sylas players will feel a sense of pride and accomplishment from stealing a good spell.

Memes aside, Sylas's ult is already orders of magnitude too flexible, and it'll make him unbalanceable.

Jerry SeinfeId1/13/2019, 3:53:09 PM1 votes

that just seems like a hassle to deal with.