The Bots Have Invaded ARAM

ArchLord James·Nov 19, 2019·120 votes·21,762 views

So now that TT has been officially removed from league, I just spotted multiple bots in ARAM. In fact, i had 3 bots in 2 games in a row. Anybody who played TT knows how to spot them. They dont talk, they almost always have ghost/heal in that order, and comet/dom for mastery. In the ARAM games i played they all went 0/13 - 0/20 depending on game length. They are feeding machines.

What is really sad is that riot says the reason they removed TT is because it was unpopular. Oh gee, i wonder why when you let it become infested with feeder bots. Well now that they are taking over ARAM i guess it is the next map to be unpopular and removed. Great logic Riot!

104 Comments

Tentacle AdvisorNov 19, 201942 votes

The bots are ONLY from Twisted Treeline. They were also (as someone has already pointed out) from the Co-op vs AI mode. The problem is that, now that Twisted Treeline is being removed (the one place the bots were practically being harbored), we're going to see a lot of them start to appear in the other game modes more frequently. It's funny, though, because it's really not like none of us saw this coming.

BladeSteelNov 19, 20196 votes

In the last 6 months I’ve seen more bots on ARAM than I’ve ever seen in TT.

MetalGearTeemoNov 21, 20191 votes

Tencent Care about bots

Pick one and Only one.

KnightLakegaNov 19, 201919 votes

Because Riot shows just how incompetent they are yet again... "Hey guys, TT has been dropping in massive numbers over the years and we have a massive infestation of bots! lets remove it!"

yet nobody at Riot thought gee where would those bots go if we remove it? .....

Im Straight afNov 19, 201912 votes

I've been spamming some arams today since the removal of TT, and holy fuck, the bots are getting a little ridiculous. Before I would stumble across the rare bot on Aram, now I feel as though almost every game theres at least 1 bot.

DeνiruchiNov 20, 20192 votes

May I ask, do you play ARAM regularly? As in, is your ARAM mmr low so you always face bots (which isn't any different than before the removal of TT) or are you an ARAM player with decent mmr there? I'm really curious because I'm mostly an ARAM player but I don't dare to play lately due to the constant loading screen bugging in fear of getting punished for it. ARAM has always been bot infested until you play a few games and your mmr climbs until you never ever see one again, so that's why I'm asking.

Yordle GunnerNov 19, 20199 votes

Yup. Hey Riot, you want to DO something? Maybe your JOBS and fix this? What a joke.

Buck StricklandNov 19, 20197 votes

I'd like them to infest SR Ranked mode. Riot would probably stop them then.

3TWarriorNov 19, 20196 votes

they'd leave them until the player count dropped, then just according to tencent's plan, abandon the main game and leave everything to the side projects

money money money...

Jennifer17Nov 20, 20194 votes

youre lv 165... how can you have bots in aram... what happened to your mmr?

General Esdeath Nov 20, 20194 votes

People really out here thinking Riot added bots to TT and now ARAM

https://giphy.com/gifs/jack-tripper-G4Ihli2UThrBS

oh lord

General Esdeath Nov 20, 20195 votes

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People really out here thinking Riot added bots to TT and now ARAM

https://giphy.com/gifs/jack-tripper-G4Ihli2UThrBS

oh lord

THEN THEY'RE ASKING FOR PROOF IT'S NOT RIOT

https://thumbs.gfycat.com/PotableAjarCrocodileskink-size_restricted.gif

JaeusNov 19, 20193 votes

And thanks to Twisted Treeline being gone, I just had 2 bots in a vs ai game on SR. Of my last 5 or so games this morning on ARAM and a coop vs AI, I've had ONE game with 0 bots (excluding the AI of course).

I made a thread asking why they can't do a better job cracking down. More steps in account creation, assigning a few live humans to actually look into Botting reports, oh and a category for Botting reports so it can be a proper priority over some kinds whining that someone said mean words at them. Currently I'm in the negative on downvotes and the guy defending the laziness when it comes to actual exploitative behavior is in the positive. Big ol yikes on the community side of things.

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I've been spamming some arams today since the removal of TT, and holy fuck, the bots are getting a little ridiculous. Before I would stumble across the rare bot on Aram, now I feel as though almost every game theres at least 1 bot.

Yeah that's how playing TT was and why I dropped it for ARAM. I mean we COULD just HAVE TT, ARAM, and Dominion as modes... so what if they weren't ultra popular. But apparently it is a huge expense or something to maintain.

GreenLoreNov 19, 20195 votes

Bots were already common in "VS Ai" games in the past though. I remember running into a game where all of my teammates were bots and so I was alone up against the AI opponents who were constantly fed by my team. I actually still ended up winning, though it was actually an interesting challenge.

Typhl0Nov 19, 20193 votes

I'm getting legit 3-5bot per game, that's rly boring

SiG DxDNov 20, 20193 votes

good fucking logic RIOT good fucking calll to remove modes when the game is supposed to grow

BobaFlautistNov 20, 20193 votes

Can't wait until Ranked, the last mode left, gets removed for being unpopular.

imortaloneNov 19, 20192 votes

I dont think they are adding ro-bots because of unpopularity... They are adding robots to eventually make the AI smarter then humans.

Ultimately I think there should be an option to play with robots because im pretty sure you get them in rank too.

ÐarkĆosmicLøtusNov 19, 201980 votes

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I dont think they are adding ro-bots because of unpopularity... They are adding robots to eventually make the AI smarter then humans.

Ultimately I think there should be an option to play with robots because im pretty sure you get them in rank too.

You do know these are players farming EXP... right? Not an actual RIOT bot.

G0blinSlay3rNov 19, 20192 votes

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ŻügżwängNov 19, 201947 votes

You have got to be trolling. Stop derailing real issues. Making a counterpoint on something you're completely oblivious to doesn't make you sound smart... Scripts written to farm experience have been a thing for a long time. These bots dont get better. They don't play to win. They are there so someone can sell a level 30 account on a shady website

TwitchInMyPantsNov 19, 201934 votes

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proof?

You know those sites that sell League of Legends accounts?

Have you ever stopped for a moment to wonder where the hell these accounts are coming from?

ODiiiiiNNov 19, 201914 votes

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UltimateShield13Nov 19, 20192 votes

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lol proof? I think anyone going against such a claim ought to be looked into, you might be running a bot yourself. Who would benefit from claiming they saw bots? What Riot ought to do is add an option on report to say we spotted a bot. Just like there's one for cheating. If enough people agree, that account should be looked into.

report them for cheating and in the comments write "botting"

General Esdeath Nov 20, 20191 votes

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proof?

These are bots that people program to farm until 30 and then sell the accounts, it's not Riot. Why would Riot even do that?

G0blinSlay3rNov 20, 20191 votes

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General Esdeath Nov 20, 20191 votes

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How the hell do you think riot has players in every single skill tier all the time? Don't act like i'm stupid. There is not always enough to fill seats.. that is why TT is going down.

Alright you got me. I fell for your bait.

G0blinSlay3rNov 20, 20191 votes

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MinardeNov 20, 20191 votes

People think you're trolling because bots have been a problem in just about every online game, and League's no exception. A cursory glance at the old forums (from 5+ years ago) shows a multitude of complaints about rampant bots in League. Even with the current Boards, there's numerous official posts from Rioters mentioning the problem.

As for your question about "Riot having players in every single skill tier all the time," Riot doesn't. That's why queue times differ drastically. It's explained in Riot's official Matchmaking support article. Players with unusual MMR (i.e. super high or super low), premades, low queue sizes (e.g. off-peak times or unpopular queues), and so on all increase queue times. If Riot actually put bots in to fill out queues, these people likely wouldn't have had to wait several hours for TT games. Or this guy who apparently waited for a Draft Dominion game for over a day. You can also check any high-MMR SR streamer for further evidence of queue time disparities.

LumendarJan 1, 20201 votes

$$$

General Esdeath Jan 1, 20201 votes

{quoted}

$$$

Except you can easily find the people who sell them, and they're not Rioters. Bots sell for like $5 a piece, Riot makes millions off of weekly skin releases.

SweetShiroNekoNov 19, 20193 votes

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You do know these are players farming EXP... right? Not an actual RIOT bot.

Are you doubting that Riot is not leveling accounts to sell them? It has been a long time with this issue reported to Riot and they always make a blind eye. It wouldnt surprise me if even elo bosster bussiness is handled my Riot too. At least in Latam it was clear they did.

G0blinSlay3rNov 19, 20192 votes

TT was sadly unpopular. Why do you think riot populated it with bots?

JaeusNov 19, 20198 votes

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TT was sadly unpopular. Why do you think riot populated it with bots?

It is exploiting players, not Riot needing to populate a mode that had plenty of queuing players to run unranked matches 24/7.

Dominion didn't have this issue and they also removed it for no reason. It cost them nothing to leave the mode in the game. Doom Bots also cost them nothing and yet we some isolated one time thing or only show up rarely when I'm sure a lot of players would enjoy a more difficult pve mode.

Ariel the CruelNov 20, 20193 votes

{quoted} Dominion didn't have this issue and they also removed it for no reason. It cost them nothing to leave the mode in the game.

Dominion had a massive bot problem preceding it's removal which inhibited the influx of new players. It got to the point that competitive-level Dominion was played using custom games (The absence of ranked didn't help). When Dom got removed, the bots migrated to TT and murdered that map's influx. With TT gone, it's now ARAM's turn.

GuzisNov 19, 20192 votes

I have done more then 6 500 arams(my fav map) and i had the feeling,that im playing with and agains't bots. I do believe,that LoL is slowly dying.... At least in europe for sure ! The mechanics of game has been messed up. I do not like new runes and they are the ones who destroying the game.U cannot calculate all the dmg,only crazy pros can do so.I have died multiple times from rune dms,because it jumped from minion on me. It wasn't possible 3-4 years ago ! Also new champs has all the craziest unique spells,mainly they are dash,invisibility,stun,shield/healback... Reworked akali at 12th minute can kill with 3 spellcasts and i do see this crap coming more into the game.U don't need to be fed to solo enemy with 3 spellcasts anymore.Evelyn with 24 kills at the same lvl can simply use ult and kill with 1 ult,just like that... That is sick and broken ! Yes she is fed,but 1 spell and dead? The game isn't so much about the player skill anymore and i think that's the reason,why ppl leaving the game....

Buck StricklandNov 20, 20192 votes

I played some ARAM tonight and it's so bad. 2-3 bots on each team every match. Not gonna mess with the mode again until it's fixed and it'll probably just go the way of TT now.

ArchLord JamesNov 21, 20192 votes

To dispute a previous comment. I was level 165 when i saw these bots so the idea that only low level accts will play with bots in aram is false

ModJikkerNov 21, 20191 votes

Hey guys,

I have unlocked this thread now. Let's keep things civil and avoid any conspiracy theories focusing instead on discussing the issue of experience farming bots in games.

[poppy-wink]

Leaving Lane BRBNov 22, 20193 votes

How about stop being insecure? That's a topic some of us can agree on.

roadto5thbannNov 24, 20192 votes

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How about stop being insecure? That's a topic some of us can agree on.

Amen to that

Podok the MadNov 24, 20191 votes

Twisted Treeline and ARAM doesn't make Riot money. Only competitive Summoner's Rift, so they couldn't care less about anything else. What happened to TT is proof. They knew it was infested with feeder bots, and they let it happen, sat back and watched, so they could eventually scrap it. There is no world championship ARAM. So they don't care.