Matching is broken , somebody fix it .
either the unranked shaco is a challenger or match making is broken , anyway im here to talk about the issue if these really wide matchmaking brackets.
either the unranked shaco is a challenger or match making is broken , anyway im here to talk about the issue if these really wide matchmaking brackets.
Normals has always been kinda wonky when it comes to match making. If you want to play casually but don't want messed up match making just make a smurf. That way when you don't wanna try-hard you can just play ranked on your smurf and still have balanced match making.
listen sweety , shouldnt be forced to buy champs and ruines over again just because match making is broken , im pointing out a clear flaw in the system and your giving me suggestions on how i should "avoid it " fix whats broken dont play around it , either riot reads these which then i go fix it , or they dont which is something they should be ashamed of , the claim to read them im pointing out something i dont like , its a reasonable claim , lets see what they do to fix it .
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listen sweety , shouldnt be forced to buy champs and ruines over again just because match making is broken , im pointing out a clear flaw in the system and your giving me suggestions on how i should "avoid it " fix whats broken dont play around it , either riot reads these which then i go fix it , or they dont which is something they should be ashamed of , the claim to read them im pointing out something i dont like , its a reasonable claim , lets see what they do to fix it .
Listen sweety? Damn you come off as a toxic little kid.
Listen newb/pleb/whatever title you get for being a much lower elo than me. ( See how that comes accross? )
Normals MMR is never going to be accurate enough to be balanced for several reasons, get the fuck over it. For instance, if someone used to play Normals a lot back when they were Silver then quit playing normals and stuck strictly to ranked for about 2000 games, climbing to Diamond, then went back to Normals, their MMR is still going to be in Silver.
Now,, you might think, "Lets just link Ranked and Normals MMR." Well, that might sound like a good fix for low elo plebs like yourself, but that isn't fair for the higher elo players.
For instance, lets say I am a jungle main. I can play Jungle at a diamond level. I want to practice playing, lets say, Top lane. When I do this I will choose to do it in Normals ( Just kidding, I have a plat smurf I do this in, but for your case lets pretend I play normals ). If I want to practice a new role I don't want to do so against people in Diamond because it won't be fun and easy to learn.
Now you might say "Well derp derp you should be able to play any role at a diamond level." Well, kid ( Yes I'm still going to talk down to you because I don't like how you responded to me, so get over it), you were Plat 2 last season, but in normals you mostly play at a Silver level ( Boosted much? ) so that tells me you don't play ANY Roles at a Diamond level, why should I have to play them ALL at that level?
Now is it fair if the Diamond+ player plays his main role/champions in normals? No, probably not. Is it fair that the Diamond+ player should have to play against other Diamond+ when playing a new role that they are practicing in normals? No.
So, simply, there is no fix to it that doesns't fuck someone else over. Stop looking at it from just your perspective and realize that fixing this with 1 solution just fucks over the other people. Also,, you state that the Diamond player hjas 72 ranked matches and over 2k normal matches - you should also note that the majority of the time when that player plays normals he doesn't play his comfort picks. You happend to be in a game where he did, so unluckily for you, you got absolutely shit on by a diamond. Which BTW,, he is Diamond 5 and you were Plat 2 39 LP last season. Plat 2 and Diamond 5 aren't that far enough away to justify that something is broken, unless of course, you are admitting you got boosted last season, which is honestly what I think happend since your stats make you look like you play at the mid to high Silver level, which makes sense with your rank from S4, being Silver 5.
Btw, tip for getting more respectful replies in the future, don't act like some entitled little fairy in the future.
tl ; dr im here to improve match making and your here to look down on people , take a hike , besides im over you judging by match making stop acting high and mighty its not impressive .
Where do people get these from?
this happened this morning to me sweety
I meant the add-on to show player details smart ass
oh thats lolskill.net its a website
thanks
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you went and re watched the match to make that argument :P autism detected . offensive words like bitching will get you no ware you're the stereotypical member of the toxic community and i hope the tribunal takes action against you .
Ps , tl ; dr stands for too long didnt read , so your reply was under my interest not over my head .
Blue side by default has a 60% winrate if the sides are evenly matched in MMR. Just a bias based on the map. To compensate, Riot puts more skilled players on the Red side. I guess in that match up they couldn't find the right groups of people for the premades.
that win rate % isnt based on that , ignoring that look at the ran difference is what i was trying to show , a silver 3 has no business playing against a diamond 5 , esp that the highest player on the silver 3 players team is gold 3 , unless the unranked dude ( which is me btw ) is fn *insert your favorite pro summoner name here * how could you match an s3 g5 g5 g3 unranked vs s1 g5 g5 p2 d5 ?? and they even know whos playing mid lane , the silver 3 player was playing vs the diamond 5 one by position , there should be a filter for that.
the mmr isnt evenly matched at all if you look at the win rates bottom side even have bad track records , mmrs arent even close .
People bitched about que times. RIOT changed the matchmaking algorithm to shorten que times. People bitch about matchmaking. You can't make everyone happy. I want the old way back because I'd rather have a good game then a fast que. Just my opinion but matchmaking is horrible and most games are wipeouts one way or the other. I don't see how that is healthy for the game but the geniuses at RIOT must think it is.
except que times arent fixed and match making is total trash , is it that hard to find a s3 player , the same bunch of players distributed differently can make a fair game on paper, assume they had the silver 3 player on our team for a mid laner and we got the diamond the thing would look like s3 s1 g5 g5 p2 g5 g5 g3 d2 unranked switch around the top laners too it would look like s3 s1 g5 g3 p2 g5 g5 g5 d2 unranked which looks 10 times more fair than your suggestion you guys who make up excuses for riot for sucking , i dont respect you guys at all , something is clearly broken and needs to be fixed and youre coming up with excuses that dont work in anyones favor , they just keep the game in its bad state , it should be improving they have employees working on this .
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except que times arent fixed and match making is total trash , is it that hard to find a s3 player , the same bunch of players distributed differently can make a fair game on paper, assume they had the silver 3 player on our team for a mid laner and we got the diamond the thing would look like s3 s1 g5 g5 p2 g5 g5 g3 d2 unranked switch around the top laners too it would look like s3 s1 g5 g3 p2 g5 g5 g5 d2 unranked which looks 10 times more fair than your suggestion you guys who make up excuses for riot for sucking , i dont respect you guys at all , something is clearly broken and needs to be fixed and youre coming up with excuses that dont work in anyones favor , they just keep the game in its bad state , it should be improving they have employees working on this .
I'm agreeing with you but just making the comment about the truth of the player base. They bitch about one thing and then when RIOT tries to fix it they bitch about that and so on.
I posted an example like you a couple weeks ago and it fell on deaf ears as is typical. You are right. You have one team stacked and the other team with trash. Why don't it even the teams out. That is what some idiot at RIOT created and we have to deal with it and it sucks that the creator of this horseshit matchmaking system don't have any common sense.
and i have to catch shit from some boosted noob in the comments section who's just here to brag about the size of his nuts :P being honest the game wasnt hopeless it was winnable , maybe if our silver mid laner didnt pick tf and picked something with an escape he would have had a prayer , the match up was super hard for him , but really this should be fixed , im just pissed about that one dude who wrote a 3 page essay about this on top :P didnt even read it but whatever :P matching making is super broken and should be fixed asap .
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and i have to catch shit from some boosted noob in the comments section who's just here to brag about the size of his nuts :P being honest the game wasnt hopeless it was winnable , maybe if our silver mid laner didnt pick tf and picked something with an escape he would have had a prayer , the match up was super hard for him , but really this should be fixed , im just pissed about that one dude who wrote a 3 page essay about this on top :P didnt even read it but whatever :P matching making is super broken and should be fixed asap .
I would not be surprised if it was a RIOT employee trying to justify an idiotic system that is broken because they don't want to admit that it is.
point well made , i swear these people who go im higher ranked than you are so you should listen to me are disgusting , im pointing out an issue and he has his dick out and some measuring tape :P , i dont play ranked matches for that singular reason now theyre on the forms, i thought i was posting to the eu east form anyway i got the link off google and posted to na by acciedent , donald trump and hilary clinton are the best people you can come up with and im asking you for help fixing a problem :P lmao .
god...what a dick. You clearly have some issues going on.
wait. is this a normal?
normal games and ranked games have separate mmr in the background. someone who plays almost no normals over the course of the season and ranks up to diamond, will not increase his normal mmr.
thats why you end up with massive skill differences in normals on the same team.
you should see what happens every year when ranked ladders close and everyone plays normals for the duration.
as you can see the diamond player has 72 ranked matches and around 2 k normal matches , you need to learn to look before acting like you know stuff :P .
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as you can see the diamond player has 72 ranked matches and around 2 k normal matches , you need to learn to look before acting like you know stuff :P .
he could have played normals for a long time without gaining a lot of mmr, then almost entirely switched to ranked where he learned to climb and got better.
i dont actually know exactly how their matchmaking system works, but with normals its always the thing that no one really gives a shit.
but everyone else isnt giving a shit either , dude why you making up excuses for riot to suck :P match making is broken and should be fixed end of story , youve tried every maybe in the book :P