I wish the Honor badge had an actual bar to show how far along you are, currently incredibly unclear

LeagueOfLuckers··27 votes·10,644 views

I've gotten at least 20 honors over the past couple days and I still haven't even hit the 1st checkpoint on the default level 2, where the fuck am I in terms of Honor? I have no idea...

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Modl Ryden l6 votes

Some speculate that there's no progress bar because that would lead players towards grinding honor for the sake of rewards and not doing it out of their own character. Even more so for those who are Honor.

If you're a good person, people will let you know.

WorksAtAGayBar8 votes

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Some speculate that there's no progress bar because that would lead players towards grinding honor for the sake of rewards and not doing it out of their own character. Even more so for those who are Honor.

If you're a good person, people will let you know.

People honor the person with the most kills or the support. Rarely do people honor people who were nice.

Modl Ryden l2 votes

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People honor the person with the most kills or the support. Rarely do people honor people who were nice.

I never said you had to be nice. Just don't be a dick. When I play I do my best to make the environment a comfortable place for my teammates. If they have questions I answer, someone's falling behind I tell them GJ, when someones flashes an emote I'll emote with them. I carry like once in 8 games and in the 7 other games I still get honors just for being a cooperative teammate. And I play majorily play ADC, Riven, Yasuo, and any other 'toxic champ' stereotypes. I rarely support. And I don't even net super positive on ADC, it's more like I got 2/1 at the end of the game. Or 4/5.

Besides what difference would it make if supposedly had a progress bar?

Wow, at the end of the game you ask, "Give me the honors for carrying, ty ty."

There's no honor for carrying unless you were a great shotcaller which I guess somewhat translates to carrying? But it also requires a cooperative team. Therefore it's a team effort.

As for the other two for being chill and a friendly player, those don't require you to net 10/1 KDA.

Wow so my Toxic jungle Yi went 22/0 and we lost. Would you still honor him? Of course not.

Terozu1 votes

Hooring others does more than being honored.

º Lamb calls º1 votes

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People honor the person with the most kills or the support. Rarely do people honor people who were nice.

This is true, you don't have to be nice, or even play well, support gets the honor most of the time. I could play well and get no honor, but play support, even it I fail, I will get honored.

Resolution1 votes

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People honor the person with the most kills or the support. Rarely do people honor people who were nice.

I can back this up as a Support main, the number of free votes I've gotten just for playing Nami.

Anin7771 votes

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Some speculate that there's no progress bar because that would lead players towards grinding honor for the sake of rewards and not doing it out of their own character. Even more so for those who are Honor.

If you're a good person, people will let you know.

What's wrong with grinding honor? If you play well and don't flame, you deserve to progress. If you become toxic, you lose it. So you have to not be toxic to retain it. Win-win for Riot.

OatheSworn3 votes

Riot said that they haven't and won't add a level bar for honors in order to prevent players from simply grinding it like XP.

Sugarlicious1 votes

But what's wrong about grinding it? They way I see it, those who get honored are those who play well, either support or carry. If you feed or flame, you won't get honored. So, where's the problem exactly?

Wolfeur3 votes

They don't want it to become clear for people so that they know when they can "afford" not to be nice. Keeping the mystery subconsciously enforces you to try to be nice because you never know how much you need to level up.

y0r1ck2 votes

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Keeping the mystery subconsciously enforces you to try to be nice because you never know how much you need to level up.

This feels shady and manipulative.

XeroKimo1 votes

That's psychology for you

y0r1ck1 votes

No. It's one very very very specific application of psychology.

That's like saying hey atombombs? That's chemistry for you

PaladinNO1 votes
PaladinNO1 votes

They don't want it to become clear for people so that they know when they can "afford" not to be nice.

This isn't the first time I've read that argument, and I cannot believe it is true. If a human being is actually thinking along those lines, then that's just sad.

Wolfeur2 votes

Welcome to humanity

PaladinNO1 votes

Thanks, but I ain't going back to that - I turned to the machines, preferring logic over emotion, a long time ago.

theChibiTina2 votes

I can get behind this. I currently have no idea if I'm even anywhere close to reaching checkpoint 1 of honor level 4. It's a little bit sad to not know how much further you have to go. :(

PaladinNO2 votes

I expected this to happen, so I am keeping records of my Honour points in an Excel document. ~1155 Honours total, including from premades, so far this season. There is the occational delay on receiving them, so I might have left the lobby too soon sometimes to get them all recorded.

I am marking out every checkpoint to get an estimate of games and honours needed between them. I am also noting the number of "Everyone on your team honored a teammate! You got a little extra Honor progress this game.", and what sort of Honour I get (Friendly / Calm / Leadership) and who "was the most honorable player on your team".

Received my second Honour level 5 orb a few days ago (which is basically Honour level 5, checkpoint 2), and am currently about 1/5 on my way to the next one. But seriously, the Honour system is overrated - the rewards feels...acceptable (no more, no less), but nothing to celebrate. Some BE and some Hextech keys, and that's about it.

FixHealsRemoveGW1 votes

I wish honor would be about the game and not about chat.

In fact we have ranked, so honor is garbage anyway.

Being nice to everyone and never telling people things they don't want to hear is just so misplaced in a competitive game... not only misplaced but unrealistic.

SirGank1 votes

Same the reasoning they gave is meh. With the rewards not feeling good and the honor progress feeling forcibly slowed, i rather see an exp bar. It seems like it takes a month before each honor goes up and that feels bleh.

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