New Quinn's ult is a joke.& New Grave's Q is op.
About Quinn, because of the channel, i cant use the ult to flee from the fight anymore. If it is a transformation, Elise/Nidalee's ult is much more useful than hers. So what is the point of her ult? She is adc and she has the short attack range and she has a ult skill like it is only good for roaming. About Grave, his lv5 Q has the total damage as lux's lv3 ult. It s like WDF!