Just wanted to bring light to what could be an unjust punishment

Blink Puppy··4 votes·406 views

Hey there folks, Casual, but long-time player here, I don't use the forums much, so please forgive me if this is out of place, I feel this is the best spot to post this. It was recommended to me by Riot staff to post the following after my initial concerns were voiced in a support ticket exchange:

I like to consider myself "well-behaved" player. I don't get reported, I don't get angry or emotional over video games. However, my computer/internet connection can be rather finicky at times, and I want to address a problem that I (as well as many others) have regarding the current state of the "leaver" punishment.

Yes I understand that this punishment is made to discourage people from intentionally disconnecting mid-game, and I completely agree that it is %100 necessary to punish those players, it truly sucks when a quitter decides to abandon the game, be it on my team or the enemy team.

However, I was recently demoted, and reported x4 due to my internet connection giving out while we were winning a ranked match. Clearly I did not mean to leave a winning game, and clearly i was not intentionally trying to lose. Disconnections due to internet issues rarely happens, and in this case, was due to a power outage at the internet provider's facility.

Okay, I understand that there is no way to distinguish intentional leavers from unintentional leavers. But is there a way to implement a screening (similar to other report-based punishments) that allows innocent players to be rid of their reports/leaverbust punishment if the reports prompt staff to look at the in-game chat and scores and determines that there was no intention to leave?

I know that's a far shot, but there is another area that would be much easier to help:

Errors during the 3-minute grace period.

The last game I almost played was a loss. A loss due to my game never loading. Client seemed to be functioning fine, but froze during loading. I was unable to connect to the game in time to make the 3-minute grace period, and found myself unjustly punished a full game's worth of LP, and a good chance for more undeserved reports as well.

The 3-minute grace period is a great idea to help protect players from being left high and dry when a teammate fails to connect, BUT for the player that fails to connect, why does he/she get the same punishment as an intentional leaver? Especially when no team members are negatively affected by the one who was unable to connect?

I am just hoping that eventually we will see that for someone who fails to connect during the grace period, (due either to client/server side, internet, or personal pc complications) they are either issued a warning, so that they may have a chance to fix their problem before attempting a ranked game again, OR have the punishment reduced to that of "queue-dodging" because let's face it, while having a team mate miss the 3-minute window is annoying, nobody suffered an unjust loss, and very little time was taken up by the mishap. It will allow the player to fix whatever is causing the issue, and come back to gaming. The player is less likely to enter his next game "tilted", and eliminates the possibility of unjust punishment during unintentional "loading screen" leaving, which MANY of us have had before.

I HIGHLY doubt that players intentionally disconnect during the loading screen, because they could just as easily have "queue-dodged" before loading and lost less points. That is why I believe "full-game" leaver punishment, for a 3-minute grace period disconnect, is severely unwarranted, perhaps antiquated, and deserves another look. If a player continually disconnects during the grace-period, then of course, full-game punishments can be warranted.

Thanks for hearing me out! Please post thoughts, suggestions or ideas if you have any. Or tell me why I may be mistaken. I don't want to come off as a complaining whiner. As the title says, I simply wanted to bring light to a troublesome aspect of the game imo. Thanks again!

2 Comments

Dethflash1 votes

I agree with you that if someone doesnt load in the game in time and the game is a remake then you shouldnt lose any LP or only lose as much if you dodged during champion select. If you canr connect and the game is a remake you shouldnt be reported either. Id also lime to point out that there is NO way to report people trolling in champion select. Ive had people ban someones champion on purpose just because they dont like the champion their teammate wanted to pick. Ive been cursed, flamed, and called all sorts of racist and sexist things in champion select so many times ive lost count years ago. There is currently no way to report a player who says to your team "youre all fucking %%%%%%s, just fucking trade mid with me you damn %%%%, just go kys you cant win mid even against a bronze 5 you bitch so just trade with me so i can carry you sacks of shit" and then dodges because mid didnt want to trade lanes with this toxic person. And yes ive seen people say stuff like this instantly when i get into champion select, leading me to believe that they had that ready to paste into chat, and that they do that regularly. Majority of the time im happy when the toxic person dodges in champion select, but id like to be able to report them because saying things like that is not acceptable in game, so why does it go un-punished in champiom select? Because there is no way to report people from champion select

Taz the Kitsune1 votes

I can't believe you actually made me read all that haha.

Anyway seriously, I understand it completely. But that issue is too hard to fix. If someone get disconnected, there is no real way of knowing if its the case or not. But that not the worse. Trolls could also simply disconnect their box or internet and act like it was a connection issue. I know that feeling of having a black screen and have to restart or lol or your computer due to an inside but of the game or that game created graphic card bug that need a full restart. I know that because I had to deal with that a few times. But that punishment is correct to my view. If people get less punished by that, it will affect the entire trolls thinking. They would all jump on the occasion to not dodge the champ selection but dodge the actual loading screen. It would be too simple for them to troll. So I m sorry that you had to deal with those bad internet and reports.. But I don't think rio can fix that issue due to affecting too much the way trolls would think.

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