LeBlanc discussion: rework

Hey everyone, LeBIanc EU here.

I'd like to adress my concern about the LB's rework: Note that these are my opinions

1) Her gameplay:

• The delay in lane on her mark made it quite predictible and hard to land vs good oponents who will zone you as soon as you try to approach, or get away. Meaning you mind find yourself in an awkward position to proc your passive if you go and chase the guy to proc it. Plus they will be aware and ready to cc you immediately since the W takes time go back.

• In teamfight: It is hard to get to the backlin with this 1.5 sec mark, by the time you go in, put the mark, activate it and chain's 2nd proc, you have the time to get killed roughly 10x. It is nearly impossible to get to the backline in a normal teamfight, which brings me to the next issue:

• I've had success playing her with a RoA and Rylai, to sustain the dmg i might take while waiting for this mark. However, it changes her style from assassin to kite style mage, which again brings me to the next part:

• The only targets you now have is the tanks/ bruisers on the front line. i found myself usefull as a disrupt mage in more than one game by chaining 2 bruisers/ tanks at the same time and slowing em down for my adc.

• Mages such as Ahri have in my opinion much more in and out at this moment, while LB is in a pot where she cant really dive with full ap items because she will get blasted before her mark even procs. Other mages do her job much better, and in terms of assassination talon, rengo, zed do it much better as well.

• Note that to have a good tamfight with leblanc, your team need to have a teamfight where the positioning was already advantageous and not a face to face where tanks will be in the front and bringing youdown. Bruisers focus apc and adc and if not tanky u will die before u have the chance to really do something.

• Her Item build has changed drastically going from glass canon to heavy hp style.

• The slow removed on her E makes it very difficult to deal with oponents running away or coming no problem to smash dat nasus Q on your face easy peasy, if you use your W to fall back you lose a lot of dmg for quite a few sec in that teamfight. Mages dont even care about the chain, they can still send their burst faster than you because of the delay.

• Against other assassins: Zed, talon, rengar, fizz, kata have the ability to kill quickly if they have items, leblanc on the other hand has no choice but to wait these 1,5 sec for her passive to come.

• Her W in the laning phase: It helps the 1st minutes, but then you still need to W and after your 1st ap item, afer you W into em, they're pretty much dead anyway, so the need for the Q to follow up is a waste of mana, even if small.

• The radius of her W does not permit to apply to the whole wave when they're packed (not talking when they arrive in a line but already in lane hitting), You still end up using extra spells to clean in faster to go roam or anything else. In the case of the previous leblanc, the mana cost on double distortion was 0 AND, it cleared the wave, your ult still was back there by the time you roam. Now if you do that, the CD on her ult is so long that you ended up wasting more mana to send out 2 (or 3 spells sometimes): Meaning now you W, Q and possibly E for that last creep, while before you W/R with less mana cost and less spells in immediate cooldown. They removed the W-R clear to W/Q and E or auto-attack for the lat creep.

• The clone on her ult is nice, burned some flashes sometimes (1 in every 10games), but most of the time was useless. Plus the cooldwon on it so long, it is the same as on massive cooldowns some game breaking ults have.

• The come back to position with her W feels strange it removes her in and out, while making you rage and smash the button to go faster.

Overall:

• Her Gameplay changed where if you force the full ap, you better stomp and FAST, in late game you're not that threat from the early where MR will KILL you, and a banshee's veil will obliterate you since delaying your passive by tons. The kite style works, but changed her whole assassin style gameplay, killing the old one and making a new one.

• I'm deeply unsatisfied by this useless change that was made to her, please give us the old one back.

New gameplay:

I found new ways of playing her, which I'm not satisfied with, but I do find them interesting if you do want a kite style mage or want a new champ to master:

1. Max her E or W 1st, depending of the situation and your laner go for CDR morello, boots of cdr, added with a rylai - zhnya for that extra tankyness slow/immortality, and chain/ slow everything around you in a teamfight, your adc will enjoy a moment of great peace trust me, you wll become the new teemo: being annoying as F. Remember you're quite squishy this way, just peel for ur adc ( with the hope that he can handle himself).

2. Play her tanky with RoA and Rylai with zhonya to become this front line ap. You need to survive the damage before proc passive.

Odd situations i found myself in:

We were winning, we were sieging their tower, their ahri was throwing balls and poking us hard. I was sending my stuff in, dealing absolutely no dmg since i cant stay under tower like: Hey guys can u wait for my thing to proc? Even if i jumped around the wall i was fcked. So in a situation of siege or where you do need to poke, your powered is nearly equal to 0 in my opinion.

She went flash/ dashing towards us, charm, Q , E , our adc was 10% hp and she dash out. we got immediately engaged on at the same time and we got rekt. I felt useless compared to that ahri.

LeBlanc could poke before with WQRE or WRQE or WQE if ut unavailable. Now i'm not sure what she can do since doing in will mean a delay on her W and having to proc her passive would take 1.5 sec, which is more than enough to get rekt in such a situation.

OLD LEBLANC BACK PLZ

Let me know what you guys think, this is my opinion, have fun all in the rift, gl&hf all :)