Verbal Abuse

NordicNight·Jul 13, 2015·6 votes·678 views

So I for one am getting extremely tired of not being able to use the chat feature in league of legends. The reporting system is way out of hand right now and it needs to be taken under control. I just got out of a game where my Darius fed a riven 5 kills in the first 10 minutes of the game (keep in mind this is ranked) and I finally spoke up saying "At what point do we get to report Darius?" that was the first thing i had said all game. Instantly after that darius and his duo partner master yi start going off on me how im being negative and that im not doing anything for the team while we are 10 minutes into the game and I am 1/2 as Ashe in the bottom lane with me support thresh. Darius and Yi constantly harassed me until the end of the game, in which riven went 25/7 single handedly fed ever ylane after having her way with darius, and at the end game lobby screen i instantly get the message saying that i have been reported for verbal abuse. This is a nearly every game occurrence at this point in LoL. I have been playing for 4 years now and I can easily say without a doubt that the report system is ruining the game for me. Not only have I been chat banned for having multiple instances such as this occur but instead of rewarding people with honors at the end of a game and not honoring those who decided to flame and be unsportsmanlike, the system has been changed to who is getting reported and who is not getting reported. Nobody is giving out honors anymore and the system isn't working like it should be. Sure people are getting chat banned limiting there trash talk but that is also limiting their communication in the game resulting in even further frustration and tilt from said players and their teammates whom they cant communicate with. I believe that the mute button was the only feature that needed to be installed into the LoL chat feature to close out flamers yet since there is a report button nobody even uses the mute feature and instead choose to listen to players rage all game just so they have some sort of "proof" that they were raging the whole game when (not if) they report someone. Back in Season 2 i remember people talking trash just as much as current day players there is no stopping it its going to happen if you have a chat feature in the game it is going to happen. Honestly in a real world situation you can't just report someone such as your boss or your parents or girlfriend from verbally abusing you from time to time when you mess up, so why is it such a priority in this game? The reporting system as it stands weakens the community as a whole by making it a very negative aspect of the game that is completely dominant over another positive one (honors). And I know like nobody is going to read this and especially this far but these are my concerns about the game and the community as it is now I actually used to enjoy being able to throw witty banter back and forth with strangers as if it was a recreational sport but now doing so will put me on chat ban and honestly it makes me nervous to purchase anything for the game in fear that someday my account will be permanently banned and I will lose years of money invested into it. And it's easy enough to respond to this with the thought of "well just dont talk to people" or "dont verbally abuse people" but if we are trying to move the game forward in the world and make it a bigger and bigger esport then something about this will have to change. All sports are mental games and this one is no different I am a collegiate athlete and can vouch for how important it is to keep a cool head at all times when playing a game. But at the same time there are instances when allied players need to be reprimanded by someone on their own level and not someone like a coach (riot) and there isn't a penalty for that in an actually sport so why would you take that out of esports? also mentally playing games with the other team to put them on tilt is an ancient strategy thats been played upon probably since the dawn of ciivlization. By not being able to verbally reprimand allied players, and taking psychological factors of playing against other real human beings, League of Legends is being limited to just an esport when it could rise to be a cultural phenomenon the likes of which we have yet to see in the video game world. It is no longer a social platform where you can meet strangers in your matches and leave feeling challenged mentally by their words, it is being flattened into just a cold hearted game with no soul that is swirling into a black hole of negativity instead of flying high into the great beyond. I only wish for my voice to be heard by a few as I have recently been trying to persuade people to honor or not honor players instead of reporting them. If you read this far thank you for your time. Sincerely -NordicNight

14 Comments

wilsuport4coffeeJul 13, 20153 votes

honestly, I'm having the exact same problem. apparently the only way to not get restricted since the tribunal is RIP, is to not talk at all and suck everyone's dick regardless. The community, low elo community, are such babies that anything you say at all that isn't dick-sucking positivity is taken as offensive.

Sythriel DrakenJul 13, 20151 votes

doesn't even work then. I've gotten warnings after warnings for verbal abuse when I don't say anything in Any of the lobbies.. it's obvious riot does not care about the players thanks to things like Sated devourer, a system that lets you curse as much as you want, degrade people as much as you want, and it doesn't act.

AtheosisXJul 13, 20152 votes

Wow, that's a wall of text. My advice would be to not say things that could be taken as an insult. Things can get out of hand fast.

NordicNightJul 13, 20151 votes

But why? What makes players fall apart as soon as somebody says something to them? Riot is rewarding players who are acting as victims and playing poorly due to "verbal abuse" and punishing those who are making an effort to play effectively. Im not talking about blamers either im talking about people who see a problem have the balls to voice their concerns and get punished for it because i know for a fact even though i reported darius for verbal abuse i got reported twice by the duo queue and barely said anything all game I am going to get punished for speaking up

AtheosisXJul 13, 20152 votes

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But why? What makes players fall apart as soon as somebody says something to them? Riot is rewarding players who are acting as victims and playing poorly due to "verbal abuse" and punishing those who are making an effort to play effectively. Im not talking about blamers either im talking about people who see a problem have the balls to voice their concerns and get punished for it because i know for a fact even though i reported darius for verbal abuse i got reported twice by the duo queue and barely said anything all game I am going to get punished for speaking up

Instead of asking why just don't say negative stuff. It doesn't help ever.

wilsuport4coffeeJul 13, 20151 votes

Dude, if people can't handle people not saying anything that isn't ass-kissing, than a world-wide online MOBA isn't the place for them. Seriously. Yes, there are some true TOXIC people in this community. Thats what was so great about the tribunal, then toxic wasn't saying anything that isn't positive, it was being truly toxic and the people took the majority vote and took context into consideration. It wasn't considered toxic to as much as reply to someone harassing you.

Riot is trying to create this perfect environment where everyone is happy and get's along, and that's never going to happen. Riot has an awful match-making system, and so many things to work on, that they try to distract you with unneeded updates and chromaskins. Like, no, can we please focus on real issues. Trolls are something that go unpunished, why not work on that? the fact the automated system was able to finally pick up ONE TROLL after a YEAR OF IT BEING OUT was news worthy, that's pathetic. Id rather play with someone kind of mean that's on my level rather than a troll or a whiny baby any day.

Now people get so mad and offended over everything they will report you for literally nothing.

AtheosisXJul 13, 20152 votes

That's all well and good, but it doesn't change the simple truth that getting salty with people never helps you win games and puts you at risk for punishment. So again, it's better to not say anything negative. Just keep it to yourself. I call people all kinds of stuff all the time when I'm playing but I don't type it out. It's called self control. It's not that hard really.

Ser GarlandJul 13, 20151 votes

Why even have taunt emotes in the game if you can't shit talk in pvp matches?

AtheosisXJul 13, 20151 votes

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Why even have taunt emotes in the game if you can't shit talk in pvp matches?

That's a good question. Riot is a bit inconsistent there.

NemeBroJul 13, 20151 votes

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But why? What makes players fall apart as soon as somebody says something to them? Riot is rewarding players who are acting as victims and playing poorly due to "verbal abuse" and punishing those who are making an effort to play effectively. Im not talking about blamers either im talking about people who see a problem have the balls to voice their concerns and get punished for it because i know for a fact even though i reported darius for verbal abuse i got reported twice by the duo queue and barely said anything all game I am going to get punished for speaking up

You could also not be a big baby and start attacking other players if they are playing badly.

It doesn't take any courage to say "At what point do we get to report Darius?", and that you think it does is hilarious. If you had tried to take charge and tried to coach Darius into playing better would be one thing, but you came out immediately with nonconstructive blaming, which just makes the person you're talking to (and their theoretical duo Q partner) go on tilt and solves nothing. Try to suggest ways they could contribute in a nicer manner. I had a Caitlyn feeding incredibly hard in one ranked game and had our entire team ganging up on her to the part where when they told her to do something she would go out of her way to not listen, but when I asked her to do something nicely she complied. Easy. We won that game.

Ser GarlandJul 13, 20151 votes

The 'unskilled player' report should outright bann a player account for three days. Then 6 days, then 12...

I hate the stacking that chat and leaver buster have. It's absolutely unjustified.

Wiggle Dat ButtJul 13, 20151 votes

Being one of the most toxic ragers, I have been chat banned so much and haven't had fun in a really long time playing this game. I honestly just don't get how people get to gold, plat, diamond and still suck so hard. It gets so bad that I will even cause my team to lose the game if I think they deserve it or if they do something stupid. Basically my mentality is if you want to act like a complete asshat and do stupid stuff, fine stay in this Elo.. I'll get out of it later.

Like I said though I haven't had fun in this game in months doing this. So I decided yesterday that I would duo with someone who I know can hold his own in lane and I can jungle and snowball everyone else. I've found playing with a duo buddy keeps me from purposely losing first off, because I don't want him to be punished. Secondly I keep my mouth shut no matter how hard the feeders feed and rage. We played 5 games in a row and I had so much fun every single game as we carried 3 bads every... single... game. 5 wins in a row.

Coincidence? Maybe. It was just nice to have fun in this game for once in the last year.

MoneYoverAllAug 3, 20151 votes

Macintosh: if i must chose betwen fcking your mother or a dog i would chose dog kid can we report and permaban this player. Worst toxic player EUNE

KVbqbFsC8eAug 3, 20151 votes

I got a two week ban yesterday for calling my botlane bad. This games community absolutely cannot handle or accept anything that can remotely be described as criticism.