I've played a few games against fiddlesticks after the 6.9 patch, and he has become too op. He slows you down, and sucks you heath to heal himself, which makes him almost impossible to kill... please do something to make him less op, because right now any game against him, he cannot be killed without at least 3 person gank. PLEASE DO SOMETHING RIOT!!!!
WinBoat4 votesJust cause you lost to a Fiddlesticks does not make him OP.
GuillotineCutter2 votesPeople cry about fid now too ? I'm so done with this sub forum.
ValyrianBlade2 votesFiddlesticks rocking a 56% win rate in the jungle and everyone jumping here to defend him and downvoting this thread to oblivion.
Yes, OP is lacking reasoning (guess the downvotes are warranted). Fiddlesticks did receive an evident buff though, and definitely needs to be toned down a little. Not sure why they put a MS boost on a champion who often stands still for a while. His ult was already quite devastating in the right situations, so it's no wonder that putting an MS boost on him is making him win so much.
I mean, the champion has been outright broken in ARAM forever. If a champion is that strong in a different mode, there are obviously circumstances that could easily lead to them being OP in the main made. Throwing him an MS buff is one such circumstance.
Boulderox2 votesHe gets some mobility... Oooooo scary.... The 7 bounce crow may be problematic but I haven't seen it
Shandrake2 votes
"I haven't got a brain, and neither does OP"
71883083DEL11 voteshe's not op, you just don't know how to counter him. -_-
MunchCrunchLunch1 voteshes not. hes easily killed in team fights. I mean the best thing he can do is ult in and not die. usually people run away when they see fiddles anywhere. its what you do you just kite back at the opposite direction.
ofart1 votesFiddlesticks did get a buff but he's still quite niche and the main reason his winrate is good lies in the fact that Fiddle players have more average games than any other champion.
ValyrianBlade2 votesFiddlesticks did get a buff but he's still quite niche and the main reason his winrate is good lies in the fact that Fiddle players have more average games than any other champion.
I would agree with that except for the fact that Fiddlesticks has over a 57% win rate on players with only 5-15 games of experience on him. There's no doubt that he's strong beyond his insane average playerbase number of games. The 59% win rate on the mains is acceptable only if the new uptakers with under 15 games aren't managing over 52%. 57% on new-to-the-champion players is evidently OP.
ofart1 votesI would agree with that except for the fact that Fiddlesticks has over a 57% win rate on players with only 5-15 games of experience on him. There's no doubt that he's strong beyond his insane average playerbase number of games. The 59% win rate on the mains is acceptable only if the new uptakers with under 15 games aren't managing over 52%. 57% on new-to-the-champion players is evidently OP.
Those stats are meaningless for the sample size we have and considering his low pick-rate. If you look at other regions, you find Fiddle winrates varying from 52-57% for jg. I think people aren't used to playing vs him.
Also, keep in mind that Fiddlesticks was such garbage that many of the players with few games on him could have played a lot of Fiddle in the past. Valkrin for example played a ton of Fiddle in other seasons and just tried him again after the buffs. It's not the same as seeing that number for a new champ. since FIddle's been around for ages.
Fiddle isn't even remotely OP atm despite the winrate. Winrate is merely one indicator and nearly everything Fiddle does can be prevented through competent vision coverage. I'd be shocked if you saw him as a contested pick in LCS. There are just far more reliable junglers out there who don't rely on big mistakes.
ValyrianBlade1 votesThose stats are meaningless for the sample size we have and considering his low pick-rate. If you look at other regions, you find Fiddle winrates varying from 52-57% for jg. I think people aren't used to playing vs him.
Also, keep in mind that Fiddlesticks was such garbage that many of the players with few games on him could have played a lot of Fiddle in the past. Valkrin for example played a ton of Fiddle in other seasons and just tried again after the buffs. It's not the same as seeing that number for a new champ. since FIddle's been around for ages.
Fiddle isn't even remotely OP atm despite the winrate. Winrate is merely one indicator and nearly everything Fiddle does can be prevented through competent vision coverage. I'd be shocked if you saw him as a contested pick in LCS. There are just far more reliable junglers out there who don't rely on big mistakes.
Does the playerbase average games only count from the current season? If so, I suppose I would withdraw that argument. The title wasn't clear, I thought it meant since forever.
Although his win rate spiked by over 6% and his play rate more than doubled after the latest patch. There's still no doubt that he's strong. I'd just be willing to wait longer before declaring him OP.
Being beatable in competitive play doesn't mean very much. Junglers that are counter-jungle-able are not picked in pro play. However counter jungling in solo queue is a lot more risky, since you can't tell your allies to be ready to back you up, or to keep their lane opponent busy. Counter jungling in solo-queue is a 50-50 shot on which team has the laner with better responsiveness, which means being weak to counter jungling isn't a weakness at all since half the time your team will get a kill out of your enemy trying to invade you.
ofart1 votesDoes the playerbase average games only count from the current season? If so, I suppose I would withdraw that argument. The title wasn't clear, I thought it meant since forever.
Although his win rate spiked by over 6% and his play rate more than doubled after the latest patch. There's still no doubt that he's strong. I'd just be willing to wait longer before declaring him OP.
Being beatable in competitive play doesn't mean very much. Junglers that are counter-jungle-able are not picked in pro play. However counter jungling in solo queue is a lot more risky, since you can't tell your allies to be ready to back you up, or to keep their lane opponent busy. Counter jungling in solo-queue is a 50-50 shot on which team has the laner with better responsiveness, which means being weak to counter jungling isn't a weakness at all since half the time your team will get a kill out of your enemy trying to invade you.
Yes, it's for the current season. Counterjungling is actually one of the best ways to snowball and carry games. It's way more effective in DQ than competitive play.
Weathered1 votesThe only real change was a passive that gave him movement speed, a buff that you didn't even mention in your complaints.
Pandemic Punch1 votesI have not played vs him enough to know. I just got done caning one in the booty though.
Datawave20191 votesclearly if anything they need to make his ult stronger hes kinda behind other champs when it comes to scaling damage. Even his 7 bounce crow is a little under damaged just cause it is a multi hit crow makes no difference early game especially after they downgraded mages rune pages we are not as strong starting off as we use to be the best rune pages start us at 30 ability power now use to be 63 they cut us by half. I also hate that his terrify is so slow to react against tank and op champs like Garen and Annie they both can get there ult's off before your able to terrify them. So all in all your just having a problem fighting fiddlesticks just learn to kite and stay a distance away from his crow don't get melee champs to fight him it dosen't work you need distance champs. Hes a good counter to op champs like akali, irelia, garen, veigar, and riven because of his terrify and sustain drain he stays alive longer and is harder to kill cause he can escape ganks easily with terrify add flash to that and he can be unstoppable i main him hes great in good team comp.
CancerisCurable1 votesI feel like fiddlesticks is op because every time I went against him I never stood a chance 🤔
