Zyra REALLY needs a buff.

Cupidly·4/23/2015, 8:28:00 PM·6 votes·882 views

Okay so, let's all admit it: Zyra has been dead in the mid-lane since season 3. It's curious that this was a champion designed for the mid-lane, yet now when you pick Zyra, her starting items are all support items. This is not okay. As someone who has loved and has mained Zyra since her release, in this new meta you can barely call her "rise of the thorns" as opposed to "touch of a withered petal" (I mean, in comparison to various other midlaners). Any other arguments against the aforementioned are anathema to me, since I simply do not care for anyone who says otherwise. Here it comes: "Well, she's a dps mage, and she is suppose to zone with her plants. Any good Zyra would know how and where to land a plant." Are you joking me? Compared to Azir and Heimer, her flowers are pathetic! They die in about 2-3 hits, also they don't prioritize champions. You'd think she would be good at zoning somewhat, but guess what, those flowers are as slow in intellect as Zyra is overall. She is extremely slow par--EVERYTHING. Her movement speed, the delay in her Q, and her E (root) might as well just have a huge sign saying: "LOOK, I'M ABOUT TO SHOOT MY ROOT IN YOUR DIRECTION, BETTER DODGE." It's awful what Riot has done to Zyra, the constant nerfs have left her almost unplayable in the mid-lane. I mean, yes, you could play her, but she would just get destroyed by champions like Zed, Ahri, Leblanc etc.,

This new meta seems to prioritize mobility which is not something that Zyra has at all. So here's my suggestion: 1) Raise her movement speed FOR GOD SAKE. 2) Make her root move quicker, the thing is slow as hell. I swear, even a dead beetle could dodge the damn thing. 3) raise her base HP or give her a dash or something. Just rework her so she is playable again in the midlane. Please. That is all.

7 Comments

Hedønist4/23/2015, 8:33:19 PM3 votes

i agree 100% i think her dmg is fine just needs some base stat buffs and the plants to prioritize champs. Zyra

Drunk Rummate4/23/2015, 8:43:13 PM3 votes

Of course a mobile assassin would do well against an immobile mage... but you sound like you don't even play Zyra.

I don't play her mid. Personally I don't think it's necessary to play Zyra mid to get her full potential out. But I play her a LOT as support. In fact, she's my favorite champion to play from that position and my winrate with her is well over 60%. She's one of the few supports that I truly feel I can 'carry' with because her damage hardly falls off (especially if you build Liandry's).

That root delay you complain about... it's manageable. It's no worse than the delay on Thresh's death sentence and even if you miss you can drop a plant that slows targets on attack.

The thing about Zyra plants that make them so much better than heimer turrets is that they can be used very aggressively. They respawn a lot faster and the range you place them at is much farther. It would probably be unfair if their damage was more reliable than it already is (which is still fairly reliable if you use them properly) and it would definitely be unfair if the plants were any tankier than they are (2-4 autos or abilities to take one down).

As a support she brings a TON of utility to her team in fights. Especially in tank meta! Once you've got that Liandry's you can poke with your QW to do massive amounts of damage to their frontline. Once that big frontline dives, you drop your ult and they take a ton of damage and are likely knocked up unless they still have a mobility skill (doubtful if they just engaged on you). Combine that with your root and the Liandry's on 2-3 plants and you've got a dead tank after 5 autos from your perfectly peeled ADC.

I really think Zyra is an excellent champion. As someone who plays her frequently I think it's silly how often I see people complain about her. And I know I just spent this whole post talking about how good she is as support... but she actually does do a ton of damage mid if you choose to take her there (albeit not much more than as support).

Dryad Soraka4/23/2015, 8:48:37 PM3 votes

Zyra is fine as she is though.

dalphy084/23/2015, 9:10:15 PM1 votes

I actually think she's more or less balanced.....don't really see how the E speed is too slow o.O

Salidfingers4/23/2015, 9:42:37 PM1 votes

only buff ill like is a increase range on her seeds

Stonington4/23/2015, 9:53:23 PM1 votes

No, her winrate never dips below 50% and she has a 52-53% winrate in plat and diamond. She's in a good spot and there's on reason to buff her.