Hi guys, I was wondering what role I should invest the most time with. I mostly play adc and jg champs for norms and ranked. Is this the best way to climb the ladders? Should I be playing a different role? What could I do to practice?
Please let me know below thanks :)
IcyPepper3 votesWhatever you're best at! :D
You see, carrying isn't about doing the most damagez or getting the most kills (although those help), it's about doing the best you can to aid your team!
For example:
You're playing support Braum. Now, are you going to babysit your ADC and be a ward bot? If that's what you're good at, then be great at it! But if you want to take a step further, learn how much power a support brings to a team, and utilize different strategies to aid your team. Encourage your ADC to use the blue trinket! Gank a lane solo or with the jungler (I mean, cc is cc, amiright?), ward offensively/defensively, remind your teammates to ward because of the ward limits! Participate in teamfights! Buy utility items as well as tank items! Pinsir the enemy with your ultimate (bonus points if you catch Yasuo offguard)!
The possibilities are endless! Think there's only one way to play every role! Whelp, if that's all you can do then you're right, but if you think you can do more then you're wrong! Er, about the playing roles in one way, mind you!
Deep Terror Nami2 votesI climbed from Silver 4 to Gold 1 just as Nami, so in my experience, Nami Supp is the best way to climb.
MonkeyMarksman131 votesInteresting... I played Thresh like 8 times this season with a 60% or so win rate lmao
I am thinking that the best way to climb is to have other people carry you :P
Xicashina1 votes[{quoted}](name=Deep Terror Nami,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HZ1hoZRI,comment-id=0000,timestamp=2015-12-07T05:22:19.986+0000)
I climbed from Silver 4 to Gold 1 just as Nami, so in my experience, Nami Supp is the best way to climb.
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My Sea Cow2 votesI do agree it's whatever role you are best at. I tend to do best myself at jungle or top. So I'd always try to get those roles. As jungler it's easy to influence lanes and help other team mates but the drawback too is they blame you when they doing bad whether you have ganked for them 100 times or no times. Honestly just find a few champions you enjoy playing, get good with them, then play them in ranked
MonkeyMarksman131 votesThe question that I have is... What happens when you "master" a champ and they nerf the champ? Do I have to move on to the next god tier champ for that lane or jungle? Or, Do I want to stick with this champ that I have mastered? Even though, it may be at a disadvantage because the champ was recently nerfed in the last patch.
My Sea Cow1 votesNo nerf is going to completely gut a champion to the point where they can't do anything. Yes some nerfs may hurt but never to the point that it makes the champion not worth playing. I still play Sejuani though she's been nerfed. I play whoever I am comfortable with and enjoy playing. Regardless if they are flavor of the month or just got nerfed
LuluInWonderland1 votes[{quoted}](name=My Sea Cow,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=HZ1hoZRI,comment-id=0002,timestamp=2015-12-07T05:35:46.518+0000)
I do agree it's whatever role you are best at. I tend to do best myself at jungle or top. So I'd always try to get those roles. As jungler it's easy to influence lanes and help other team mates but the drawback too is they blame you when they doing bad whether you have ganked for them 100 times or no times. Honestly just find a few champions you enjoy playing, get good with them, then play them in ranked
Exactly. Knowing a champ well is far stronger than the OP champ of the week. I've seen some friends main just one champ, and keep going up to g1 and back down to g5 based entirely on the strength of that one champ. That may be their style, but I'd hate to have all my eggs in just one basket controlled by somebody else (Riot).
World Ender2 votesI have personally had a lot of success in the jungle. It's currently my favorite and most played role, and I feel like people just tend to listen to your calls more if you're in the jungle. Plus, the global map presence accomplishes many things: objective control, counterjungling, getting lanes ahead, helping struggling lanes, etc.
Basically, if you're a good jungler, as long as your team doesn't feed before you finish your first clear you can usually help whoever needs help. I would also say that bruiser type champs are the best, I've recently come to love Pantheon and Hecarim as they can just be so strong even if you build mostly tanky. Also, Amumu can carry hard with just one AP item like a 
. Seriously, try it.
MonkeyMarksman131 votesxD thanks for the tips. As I said before, I'm trying to get really good at rammus because he is able to help gank lanes easily. I have never tried Hecarim before he just seems to not do damage. Would you recommend me playing him in this meta? Thanks!
LuluInWonderland1 votesThe simple answer is: whichever one you're best with. Seriously. I main support and jungle, which I think is fairly hard to carry from (especially support) but it's where I contribute most to the overall team's win (or loss).
Beyond that, adc and mid are the typical answers. ADCs, with good positioning, can kill much of the enemy team. APCs can kill most ADCs in return. In both cases, you're able to not just win a lane but snowball other lanes and/or disrupt another fed lane. Top and jungle are okay, but you have to play more carry-oriented champs and that leaves you very prone to bans and counterpicks to prevent you from snowballing early game (and those types of champs generally are best early & mid game only).
MonkeyMarksman131 votesThe only issue I have with support is that when my adc is missing every creep and my whole team is loosing lane. I can't do anything about it no matter how I try. The jungle I can roam around and help snowball a lane. I feel that mids are limited because of the nerf in the ap items. The adc that I play the most is Jinx but she is not really god tier right now. Do you think it would be worth my time to try and learn more god tier adcs like vayne or trist? I have been trying to play more games with rammus because he is a god tier jungle champ and I have been doing a decent job with him. Thanks for you advice too :P
LuluInWonderland1 votesThe only issue I have with support is that when my adc is missing every creep and my whole team is loosing lane. I can't do anything about it no matter how I try. The jungle I can roam around and help snowball a lane. I feel that mids are limited because of the nerf in the ap items. The adc that I play the most is Jinx but she is not really god tier right now. Do you think it would be worth my time to try and learn more god tier adcs like vayne or trist? I have been trying to play more games with rammus because he is a god tier jungle champ and I have been doing a decent job with him. Thanks for you advice too :P
Unless you are high elo (plat+), those tier lists don't really mean much. If a role is consistently strong anyway, it'll be nerfed. By the time you get enough matches into a champ to actually make use of their "godliness", something else will be OP. Anyway, I encourage picking up more champs since it gives you more diversity in options so you can work with your team/against the other team better, and/or to avoid bad lane matchups. For instance, Rammus is strong right now...but almost entirely due to AP comps being weak. That can change in just one patch...either through direct nerfs to him or his items, or via buffs to AP champs or items.
But if you just want to climb, then people tend tend to just have a handful of champs that they know very well and that works.
MonkeyMarksman131 votesThe issue that I have with having so many champs is that, I don't get around to playing all of them. I usually play around a game or two a day and then I call it quits. I tend to stick with more of the easy face roll champs that are easy and quick to learn with few practice games. If you have any easy mechanical jg champs to recommend please tell me XD I would greatly appreciate it
LuluInWonderland1 votesThe issue that I have with having so many champs is that, I don't get around to playing all of them. I usually play around a game or two a day and then I call it quits. I tend to stick with more of the easy face roll champs that are easy and quick to learn with few practice games. If you have any easy mechanical jg champs to recommend please tell me XD I would greatly appreciate it
That's fine too. Maybe focus on a handful of those champs and just practice with those for a while. As for fairly simple jungle champs, Rammus pops up again. Amumu is pretty easy as well...just one skillshot to hit. Nocturne and panth are pretty decent right now as well. Sion is very simple, albeit it's hard to carry with him IMHO. Personally, my go-to simple but effective jungler is still ww. With 
and 
, he can eliminate most targets and still builds tanky enough to win many extended trades. Then again, against vayne/morg/etc. he has trouble.
arcinex1 votesPlay FOTM champs. Jungle.
Drackolus1 votesJungle. You have influence on every lane. You should be strong at multiple roles, and if you're best roles are jungle and support than you'll get one of your roles 90% of games.
WarlockLaw1 votesImo support and jungle are the best roles to carry. Specifically team play oriented champs in those roles (sorry yi and brand).
As support do everything in your power to abuse your opponents mistakes and alleviate your adcs. You'd be surprised how well even bad adc players can perform when you don't let them die.
As jungle you have a few options, since I've already advised team play champions you have cc in your kit. Once you have cc you can gank every lane as opportunities arise, camp your losing lane or camp your winning lane. Make sure to get drag/scuttle/herald whenever it's low risk
MonkeyMarksman131 votesWhat happens when you play team oriented champions and your team does not follow through with you or you get "baited"? This is the only issue with champs that can't carry the team because, if your team doesn't even know how to play the game or just simply bad you still have a chance of winning.
WarlockLaw1 votesIn my experience if my team doesn't know when to engage/disengage it is easiest to carry from a champ that can do that rather than a carry. If I play a carry and my team doesn't know how to play then I don't get to play with whatever combination of divers, assassins and mages killing me for free every fight
BIue Monk1 votesPlay when you are alert, don't hesitate to pause between games, don't forget that you can't concentrate forever, and if you start losing after 10 consecutive games, you might just be tired and making bad decisions. When I'm tired, I still get kills but I just fail at carrying the game, because I enter in some kind of a "inattentional blindness" ! This might looks like nothing, but I think it's important and worth mentioning.
MonkeyMarksman131 votesInteresting... Whenever I start to loos 2 or 3 games in a row, I just start to play norms.
OmManiPadmeHum1 votesBascially, this has MANY different levels of answers.
You will find people that they said they went from silver to plat with AD TF Jungle. Doable? absolutely...but tougher than Jax jung right now? ...of course.
Depending on what elo you are talking about will also determine what role is more "carry" worthy. I find that in lower elo's, if your bot lane can carry (like they should), it should be an easy win....However, in higher elo's, bot lanes are not as important as a good mid player. Or even a good jungler.
I would say that from Bronze-Gold, just play the lane that is fun to you. After that, then try and pick a lane you seem more dominant in and roll with it. Unfortunately, until Ranked Team Builder comes out or you become pro, you might not get the lane you want, so it's really best to just be "efficient" with every lane.
MonkeyMarksman131 votesWold you have any suggestions on how to get out of elo hell with a small champ pool?
OmManiPadmeHum1 votesWold you have any suggestions on how to get out of elo hell with a small champ pool?
Me personally, I guess you could say I am still in it. I'm only silver. But I did go from bronze 5 and did it primarily with Garen top, Teemo/Jayce mid and Naut support. Garen and naut are pretty safe and hard to eff up even if you get caught out. Teemo is just a champ I am really good with and Jayce is a champ I have a bunch of fun on. Like the "extra" abilities.
Garen was my first champ to mastery 5. He is really easy to win with through bronze. I just took flash/ignite and destroyed top laners. I didn't take tele because 95% of the time, I could get 1st blood with my ignite ult combo.
the other champs I played when either garen was banned or I was stuck with another lane.
Puynsi1 votesMid/JG/ADC Top if you get fed and roam.
BluePolarizer1 votesmost top challengers are ADC mains I believe.