Stuck in Bronze 5

Chandler0524··4 votes·1,931 views

At the beginning of s7 I was placed in b3 and went on a terrible losing spree(25 in a row) and now find myself in bronze 5. Fir the past few weeks I have played numerous games and do not feel that I am playing badly but my teammates are usually not very good. Can anyone offer suggestions to climb out of bronze 5? Unlike most players in this elo I am open to all suggestions. Main Champs(Ashe Varus )

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Maximum Morde8 votes
  1. Stop blaming your team mates. It doesn't make one bit of difference if it is or isn't their fault. You can't control them so it is an irrelevant factor. Worry about the things you actually can control or you will never climb.
Risk of Fate5 votes

To start with as Maximum Morde says, don't blame your teammates. Just ignore them and concentrate on things that might help you climb. For myself, I try to go through a laundry list of actions that, if I'm not climbing, I'm at least self-improving:

  1. How is my farm? Try to shoot for 100 in 20 at the very least. If I can match or break it, sweet. if I'm outfarmed, try to stay even with my laner

  2. Am I checking my map enough? Can I take a guess at where the enemy jungler might be? How about my laner? Always have your ward on cooldown when possible because it means you have some vision. Probably not the best, but you can always work on that and find different ways to ward (ie, over a wall if you think someone's coming though a part of a jungle)

  3. Objectives, what's up, what can be taken? This may take a while because you will need to assess the risks involved. For example, one game our Jayce was being camped top by the enemy jungle, so we took advantage by taking drake. Did this two more times and got mid turret out of it and another dragon. Playing the map to your best advantage can turn the tide of the game in more ways than you could possibly imagine.

  4. Analyzing the pressure of battle: are you winning or losing lane? This does not have to be decided by kills, but more by farm count or tower damage. Even knowing how well warded the map is can tell you if the game is good or not. Just because you lose lane does not mean you lost the game. Remember it is a team game, nothing is decided by 1v1s. Knowing where to be and what to do can turn fights completely on their head.

  5. DO NOT and I repeat DO NOT rage/flame/insult/belittle/call out your team as much as you want to. This will frustrate your team and lead to more losses. Instead call out your own mistakes and see what you did wrong. This will ensure that you are not making your team just as mad and shows them that at least one person can look at themselves and say "I fucked up." Admit that you're bad and you'll find improvement. Admit you're great and you'll find nothing to climb.

Just my thoughts, but hope they help in at least a little way.

ItsOrval4 votes

Funny, I just made a new account and had to go through the same team mates that would feed/afk. Yet now im Gold 2 within a week of doing ranked on that account.

How do you get better?

  1. Quit blaming your team, yes they suck, but so do you.
  2. Farm more. You should have at least 90 cs at the 12 minute mark, if not then you need to go to custom game and practice last hitting.
  3. Beens youre an ADC, ward the enemy junglers blue/red, or tell your support to. If you dont know where Jungler or Mid is, then dont push your lane.
Fluffeh3 votes

Your champion pool isnt whats keeping you in bronze. Your mechanics, game sense and decision making are. Fix those first.

Mostro Gallo1 votes

Lol yes his champion pool is definitely a contributing factor as to why he is stuck in bronze.

The larger your champion pool, the better overall understanding you will have of this game. The more understanding you have, the better you will be as a summoner. OP's mechanics, game sense, and decision making will not develop if he only focuses on limited aspects of this game.

BestSupportGold2 votes

I would strongly suggest widening the champ pool a little bit. Ashe and Varus are great adcs, but are often immobile. They have great engage potential, but if caught out, they have no escape ability aside from using your ults.

I would suggest Jinx, Caitlin, and Lucian and Tristana to add and practice. I would also try to make sure you're build path is accurate and make sure what your building complements your carry.

Look at the enemy team in champ select. Obviously if you're first pick you're kind of in the blind, but you can offer to trade with people so not to get countered. With that being said, if you fall mid select look at their team comp and then based on it, try to gauge which ADC champ would best fit against that. You don't want to have a ADC that has low mobility if you're going up against heavy engage potential. You want to aim for a champ that has an effective out method. Trist, Jinx, and Lucian offer some of that, Caitlin as well.

If their team has a lot of CC you want to look into a Guardian Angel an a QSS/Mercucial so you can get out of it.

Don't blame teammates, you're all on the same team, and you could be making mistakes without knowing you are.

Map awareness is crucial, wards are key. Everyone should be warding, trinkets and control wards help.

One last thing is positioning and targeting. Your position defensively will keep you alive, and your positioning offensively will help you carry. You should not be front line in a team fight, and you should always be auto attacking even if your abilities are on cool down. Don't attack the tanks, if you don't have too. Aim for their carries while they are attacking your tanks. Even if you die, but your teammates get kills, that helps swing the game in your favor.

One last thing, don't chase for a kill. Try to recognize when it's bait. If you get someone super low, don't flash under turret to get the kill. Just be patient, if you were able to get them that low, you'll be able to do it again. People often think Kills are what win games, but that is not the case.

Hope this helps.

Iron Wu2 votes

Ive climbed out of Bronze 5 twice now and I used Jax for top and Kassadin for mid, so many mistakes are made on both sides during a game. Its not letting them capitalize on your mistakes but making them pay for theirs.

King J3ff1 votes

Don't play adc in s7 lol. Then you will start climbing.

Azure Hamster2 votes

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Don't play adc in s7 lol. Then you will start climbing.

Don't listen to this guy. ADC is perfectly viable. Every role has its difficulties. At the moment, Meddler (lead designer) admits junglers have more agency than they should, but you're not irrelevant as ADC.

There are plenty of places to get advice for how to improve, just google around. But here are some very quick tips.

  1. prioritize not dying. One game I backed three times during the first 3 or 4 minion waves. Still came back and won because I wasn't feeding.
  2. improve your CS
  3. don't overextend alone and/or without proper vision in the jungle

Caitlyn

Chandler05241 votes

Are the two ADC's that I put that I play more often than not viable to climb with though?

Dynikus3 votes

Every champion is viable to climb. There's a guy that got to diamond playing soraka top. League is a lot more about the macro game than the micro game. Good decision making and knowing when to focus on what objectives will help you climb.

Azure Hamster1 votes

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Are the two ADC's that I put that I play more often than not viable to climb with though?

Ashe is great. I'm not sure about Varus. Often when a champ is out of favor, their win rate is depressed only a few percent. In Bronze 5, which champ you play will be much less important that your relative skill with them.

And go ahead and stick with ADC. It's hard as the assassins are always out to get you, but rewarding when you do well.

Caitlyn

MagikarpIsBoss2 votes

Varus is pretty good with the ER Runaans build. He has been picked a lot in the split as well. He isnt the best adc, but he is pretty good right now.

SGT Dingle Berry1 votes

I have been in the same boat and from personal experience you have 2 choices,

1- Keep playing ADC and don't care about rising in the ranks

2- Switch roles

Pre Season I was placed B4 as a support main sprinkled with other fill roles and I rose to S5 before that demoting came in and knocked me to B4 again. I rose to B1 before missing ADC and made the switch. Since then I've gone from B1 to B5 and everywhere in between. To put it into perspective I could carry HARD even as a supp but with ADC it's MUCH harder. I won't say it's impossible as I am sure someone will come on here soon and peacock about their ADC godliness in bronze but it's definitely not common.

If you REALLY want to climb I would highly suggest a split push role, either top or jungle. Play a champ like Jax or Tryndamere, someone who can destroy turrets solo while being able to get away safely/duel when the enemy comes. Bronze/Silver just simply can't handle the split push, almost all of our peers have no concept of keeping their lanes pushed after mid game starts, so when someone is split pushing they can easily rotate for maximum annoyance.

Bronze Bonanza1 votes

I'm also stuck in bronze 5 man. I win and win but can't get out.

Cocho1 votes

Pick a champ that can choke out the early game and basically force kills. You wont always have time to scale up.

adcDraven Lucian jg Hecarim LeeSinVi top Pantheon Darius Camille midLeblanc Katarina Yasuo Annie suppMalzahar Brand Zyra Blitzcrank

I looked at your champs, just play hecarim and find another secondary role.

In my opinion, adc is the least influential role early. You can't really roam, and are forced to either try to make plays bot, and if you cant, you just sit there and farm. I wouldn't want to leave the early game up to my teammates.

can you climb with adc? 100% yes, but not as fast

jg>mid>supp>top>adc in influence imo

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8BtklaSWl0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VbIYz9k1rBY https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HPDGmA2quRU

Bless up Fam1 votes

dont play adc anymore.

back and huge1 votes

I'm down for a game on friday that's when i get my new computer msg me..... on league

DrCrackerr851 votes

I felt this way to and when I fixed it I started to climb (b3 to s3 in 3ish weeks) and I still have a LONG way to improve the way I think but do these things. I still need to work on these things but all these little things make a huge difference

  1. Farm better. I try to get at least 180 at 20 minutes. Especially if your adc. Go in a private game and farm for 10 minutes with a dorans blade and see how much you have. Do that 5 times and youll improve a great amount

  2. Blame everything on yourself. Even if its clearly your teammates fuck up just think to yourself "Well what could I have done better" weather its "i shouldn't have extended that far" or just not going for that one damn cannon minion and getting caught for it. Trust me this helps ALOT. Always when you die rethink what you could have done better or what you shouldn't have done at all, ect

  3. Try not to play when your mad. If there is a tilter game just go watch youtube or an episode of something on Netflix or something for like 10 minutes (I like Mr. D)

  4. Accept that your absolutely terrible at the game. Your shit, I'm shit. We are different levels of shit. Everything you do in the game is shit and you have to work on it to be better.

  5. God pls do this LOOOK AT YOUR MAP. Its the most amazing thing when you start doing it.

  6. If you are losing lane, just take all the farm you can and do. not. die. So many players try to greed for farm when they can just get all-ined by the other lane. Just watch the minion die and wipe the tear away.

  7. Don't fight in minions, youll lose.

  8. HAVE A SMALL CHAMPION POOL. Honestly this one is the most importand. If you play like 4 champs over 2 roles I promis youll climb.

  9. When you get in game, type " /mute all " your not playing league to talk to some retard on his computer. Your playing ranked to climb.

  10. Don't flame, it will make yourself angry. Trust me ive been muted in chat because I was typing more than playing. And when your team mates get a tower/dragon or even a kill just put in chat "good job" "nice job" "lets keep it up" ect. People play better when happy especially in bronze.

All basic things that will improve your gameplay ALOT and yes, we get mad when our team feeds 9 kills to the opposing laner, we've all been there. Just laugh brush it off and get to the next game. You will feed some games and get carried or you will have to carry others. Its just how league is. Do these things. Also watch this guy. He is a masters player and Yes this video is a little to the extreme side and not everything is exactly right but watch his videos.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R8BtklaSWl0

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