We get it, you like to make everything flashy for the moneyscene but please for the love of god look at champion playstyles rather than champion flashyness. Captim teepo is a very original champ and making his shrooms a semi skillshot ranged throw makes him like a basic boring apc where he first was a proximity champ that at the very least took some intelligence to play.. Do you not see such things before you come up with ideas? :/
Marthian1 votesTeemo needs a complete rework that doesn't involve invisible shrooms, click blind darts, or absurdly good split pushing.
ihaveapotion1 votesNo he just needs to be reverted to his old self.
Marthian1 votesWhich is basically the issues he has in the first place: Click blind darts, invisible shrooms, and stupid amazing split pushing. He has terrible counterplay.
Bellows1 votesWhich is basically the issues he has in the first place: Click blind darts, invisible shrooms, and stupid amazing split pushing. He has terrible counterplay.
LOL many champs can face roll teemo, GP destroys him, irelia just so fast, and rumble shoves him out, there are many good counter picks for him.
Marthian1 votesThat's the thing, he gets destroyed in lane, doesn't contribute much to team fights other than a toxic click blind dart. Regardless of which, his shrooms have the worst counterplay, making it detrimental either destroy them or don't.
His best playstyle is being a toxic split pusher that shrooms up the surrounding jungle, throws a blind dart at any opposition, either chunking them, then killing them with little retaliation or preventing them from killing him, then he just runs away. It's extremely difficult to punish him for it. He doesn't interact much with either team.
ihaveapotion1 votesAnd that makes him a highly original, yes one of a kind champion that thusfor adds loads to the team and the game.
Marthian1 votesOriginal? Yes, he does have a unique kit. Is it good/healthy for the game? No, invisible traps, difficult-to-punish split pushing, click blinds, and dominating vision is not a healthy combination.
Not interacting with the enemy team or your team very much is NOT healthy for the game. As I mentioned, his best play style is just split pushing and his whole kit lets him do that retardedly well. He has terrible team fight potential in that other than being a free blind on the adc, basically does next to nothing: His range is very small (not small enough for click blinds though), and any attempts at damage will get him shoved aside/killed by a tank.
He also just wins the vision war by virtue of existing. Want to clear the shrooms? You have to buy red trinket to do so, won't clear all the shrooms/wards, and the other team has no such penalty, giving them an unfair advantage. Just leave them be? Get hit by pseudo-random shrooms of very limited counterplay, enemy team still has a huge lead (not to mention they can hit really hard.) Champions with vision in their kit should be giving an edge to their team, not completely dominate the vision war (Kalista, Ashe, and Quinn have pretty healthy examples of vision on their kit. Teemo and a lesser extent shaco, do not.)
ihaveapotion1 votesI guess you never buy vision items, theres plenty of items that make teebos shrooms into free gp.
Marthian1 votesWant to clear the shrooms? You have to buy red trinket to do so, won't clear all the shrooms/wards, and the other team has no such penalty, giving them an unfair advantage. Just leave them be? Get hit by pseudo-random shrooms of very limited counterplay, enemy team still has a huge lead (not to mention they can hit really hard.) Champions with vision in their kit should be giving an edge to their team, not completely dominate the vision war (Kalista, Ashe, and Quinn have pretty healthy examples of vision on their kit. Teemo and a lesser extent shaco, do not.)
What part of this did you not read? I do buy vision items, but it puts you at a major disadvantage as you can't clear all of them, and if you have too much red trinkets on your team, you will barely have any vision for yourselves. And even destroying the shrooms is a good enough warning to the other team. What's worse than "random" shrooms here and there? Only being able to have vision on an eighth of the map because you had to spend too much resources to get rid of his bs shrooms.
ihaveapotion1 votesHe only counters adcs and immobile apcs, why is it so wrong counters exist? hardcouters are absolutely fine, its what made this game interesting.
Marthian1 votesBecause you shouldn't be able to freely counter champions by simply pressing a button. They've been removing click CC for awhile, and his is one of the worst: High damage, blinds for a lengthy time, and it's somewhat hard to notice in the frenzy of a team fight.
ihaveapotion1 votesAnd that pressing a button was just added to teebo with the ranged shroom throw instead of having the counterplay of having to actually walk somewhere to put a shroom, are you playing the same game?