@Meddler, Can we at least get an idea as to where Wukong is in terms of getting an update?

Blue Moon Wolf··11 votes·566 views

To me, the most frustrating thing isn't that Wukong has been untouched for 4 years, it's that we keep hearing that he's "being looked at" without any more information on if he's been selected, if he got passed up or if he's even still being assessed. Then when we do finally hear about him again, We just hear that he's being looked at again. Can we at least get some idea where he's at? Is he high on the update list? Is he a project your planning on doing years from now? I really dislike being THIS in the dark on where he's at for a gameplay update and it would be really nice to at least have a general idea of where he's at currently.

I understand that he's not someone like Aatrox who needed to be reworked from the ground up or even Rengar who tends to have issues often, but it honestly get's really disheartening to keep hearing that he's being looked at as a possible candidate and never hearing anything else on the matter.

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option paralysis2 votes

Nope, check the next 15 champs riot said they are on vgu list. Wukong isnt even at the last spot.

Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

VGU =/= Gameplay update

I do not know how I can make that any clearer. Even if you don't understand that Aatrox isn't getting a VGU, you should at least know I'm talking about a gameplay update from me saying Rengar instead of someone like Irelia.

Paladin 0f Life1 votes

just take him mid and he is fine

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

Mid he's garbage against decent players.

Sun Wu Ryuumoku1 votes

I understand that he's not someone like Aatrox who needed to be reworked from the ground up

u are so wrong... Wukong's in same spot if not worse

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Yeah, he's not on the "tier 1" list for a VGU atm.

It's possible that he could get chosen for a gameplay update, though. The most important thing here, though, is that Riot can't answer this question.

That's simply not how they do things. When they brainstorm for new champ designs, they have been very clear that they can work on several at once, and they typically only move forward with the ones that are good ideas, and they only tell us once the ball is rolling in a direction that they are confident in. So it's not just that they aren't telling you, they can't.

TL;DR - You're asking questions that do not fit with how this process works, and Riot literally can't answer them because they don't know the answer any better than you do.

Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

.... I'm not asking for a VGU. I'm asking about a gameplay update which is what they keep saying he could use, have said that he's been "a likely candidate for" in the past and haven't mentioned anything more since. a VGU to me would mean that they have waited too long to update him and has gotten to terrible that they have to make him over from scratch, which is not what I'm asking for and doesn't seem to be the case yet. All I'm asking for is a straight answer on if he would be getting updated within the next year or two. I don't need specifics, I just need more then "oh yea, he could use a better kit".

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Again, Riot can't answer that question. That's not how they operate.

"Oh yeah, he could use a better kit" is the only answer they have until they reveal they are definitely working on him next. Unless they make a major break with protocol, there's not an answer between those two.

Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

They can't even say "We decided to work on other projects for now" if they decided to pass him up? There is just way too much dead air between "we might look at him" and "He'll be getting updated soon". Even knowing that everyone at Riot is very busy and can't always answer questions, It ends up making us feel like Riot isn't listening (or out right avoiding some of us in certain cases .__. ). Even knowing that Riot is busy and can't always answer questions. Especially when we see the lack of dead air for champs like Caitlyn Karma Fizz and Yasuo whenever someone asks about them.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

Two things:

  1. That's why I'm here, to let you know that they basically have said "we're working on other stuff right now." That's what the roadmap is for; now you know they are working on Irelia, Aatrox, Akali, a new champ, and probably Nunu. That's probably at least six months worth of releases right there, so you know Wukong won't be in 6 months, at least. There is info out there if you're watching the stuff that Riot puts out, and not just expecting answers to every individual Boards post.

One of the goals of community oriented moderation was to allow us to play a role like this, too!

  1. I don't know what you've seen regarding Yas, Cait, Karma, and Fizz. They are radio silent on every single one of those in the last several months, unless I'm missing something major. The Yasuo hate pretty much never dies down, and it never gets addressed. So it's not like other champs are getting a steady stream of info while Wukong is the exception. That's just patently false.
Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

The stuff for Cait, Karma and champs like that are up all the time in Meddler posts. Karma specifically is one that shows up every time.

ModKnightsKemplar1 votes

I follow Medder's Boards posts really closely. He only talks about champs they are actively working on.

Blue Moon Wolf1 votes

Caitlyn

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/Zuwx8vlW-quick-gameplay-thoughts-february-2?comment=0032

Karma

https://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/developer-corner/iGclmY4q-quick-gameplay-thoughts-january-26?comment=000800000000

It may have been him saying that they don't have anything planned, but at least its a solid answer. It's not "We may look at her" with no real confirmation of weather they really are looking at her or not. It's a "No, we have nothing planned, but we will let you know when that changes".

TyroneWatermelon1 votes

Nowhere. He is the at the bottom of the neglected trash can along with all the outdated champs TwistedFate Volibear Akali Olaf Kayle Nunu Annie Malphite Jax Shaco Skarner They're busy adding more overloaded champions that ruin the fun for everyone and introduce "unique gameplay"

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