Unpopular Opinion: Dark harvest is strong but doesn't eliminate the need for electrocute.

Revert Skarner·12/3/2018, 6:58:20 PM·6 votes·3,586 views

As the title says, I find that electrocute has more damage early, and dark harvest is better for scaling.

I would 10/10 take electrocute on akali or zed over dark harvest.

I prefer dark harvest on talon because he needs it more than the lane damage and would be better to have dark harvest to scale.

I think dark harvest is hated on because so many people like to play out laning and mid/late game is when people feel most comfortable fighting. Where electrocute is an after thought at that point and dark harvest has scaled.

I truly believe that if the games were much shorter again, then electrocute would be complained about more.

IS Dark Harvest a BIT too strong early? Sure, perhaps, but its can be easily nerfed a smidgen and balanced out. Its not "OMG SO BROKEN".

Thats all, maybe you disagree, maybe I'm wrong, but this is just how I feel based on my own games and champs I've tested both with.

EDIT: Convinced, it certainly is too good on mages. Honestly not sure how to fix this though. I've tried thinking but honestly, im at a loss. When you look at it, they are both extremely similar in a sense.

You attack them. You do extra damage.

That's why its so hard to distinguish them because they just don't have enough diversity in the way they work to warrant taking one over the other sometimes. Rioter response would be pretty nice, maybe SOME current thoughts about how they feel. Nothing too specific, just what direction they intended dark harvest to fit into, as apposed to what they can do to fix it.

6 Comments

mack911212/3/2018, 7:02:39 PM1 votes

I agree early game dh damage is pretty poor outscaling electrocute at 20 stacks and will be 24 after Nerf.

DH use is high right now since it's new and people are trying it.

JeaneGreene12/3/2018, 9:46:29 PM1 votes

Dark harvest is strong on AOE damage dealers, compared to Electrocute’s single target burst.

Noor Sakata12/4/2018, 3:57:37 AM1 votes

Dark Harvest is good for mages , most of them got bad early and can't snowball , most of them don't feel good to play with any of the key stone , Dark Harvest means you don't really have a real key stone with early , as long as they wait a little and scale , it becomes later

Thought Electrocute is still needed I prefer it on Talon for early damage , the problem is , before this current patch , I used to do well on Talon and many good 1v2 Out plays in mid/late game Now I can't , just played against a full team with Dark Harvest , it wasn't fun , Karthus , Kha , Zed , by just getting randomly with any ability , a Karthus basic attack " which is a meme " chunks my HP combined with DH

Fire Blaustoise12/4/2018, 10:56:24 AM1 votes

DH is good mainly if you win, its a win more. The more you have in your team, the better its.

But honestly, its only broken/op on mages/poke champs beside few (shaco).

Range champs should have an handicap as used.

Prestige AkaIi12/4/2018, 12:04:28 PM1 votes

Phase Rush Akali is where it's at

Revert Skarner12/4/2018, 5:23:46 PM1 votes

Bump for edit.