Help, stuck in elo hell.

Cygenic··1 votes·2,847 views

I've been in bronze for a LONG time, I play easy champions (Vi, Poppy, Garen, Nasus) But I also play medium to hard ones (Yasuo, khazix mainly) and I do good, my scores are perfectly fine along with CS too. In most of my games I will perform well and do good in my lane, my cs is mostly good (100 or near 100 cs in 15 mins) and role but my team mates just feed and lose objectives. For example 2 games ago I had a bard adc, and before that game I had a game where my bot lane and jungle gave the enemy adc a triple kill like before 5 mins. Their builds are completely CRAP too, they don't know when to build what or what items will you will have to build to counter what the enemy team is building. They don't know of any good team comps such as no tanks and all ad. In some games most of my team mates attack the tanks and the supports instead of the actual damage dealers. They ignore what I say and do whatever they want, there's no teamwork in this what so ever. But I've been duoing with a friend recently and won a lot of games, my winrate with vi is near 70 percent of 30 games. But he isn't always around so I go solo (even if he is around there are still shit team mates but we tend to carry those games) and encounter retarded team mates. Also, I just don't know how you solo carry games while the enemy adc or jungler is like 10-0, and in team fights all the dumbasses will target the tanks etc. instead of damage dealers and they will just 1 shot us because they're 10-0 15 mins in, they win team fights. Terrible decision making too, chase for like a minute till they die, bad positioning, bad ults etc. Especially trollers, once they do bad a lot of people will Int and this is so annoying as they become ignorant and start blaming the team for their mistakes. Once this happens, I become tilted and will start to feed and do bad decision making too. So please, if someone has a guide to getting out of bronze, please tell me or any tips will be appreciated. (also I do mute players sometimes). Thanks.

13 Comments

Smitemuffin1 votes

Okay, I've got a few things for you:

  1. Your cs is only fine for low-mid bronze. Your average cs is only typically above 3 cs per minute on Vi when you're jungling. You have one TF game with 4.4 and the rest are down in the 2 cs per minute range. Look at mine on op.gg and see how even my worst games in lane are still above 7 cs? During lane phase, my farm is actually around 9 cs per minute and I'm only in gold. We gotta bring your numbers up, those are rookie numbers.

  2. You need to play stuff that will win early and snowball. This is bronze, so bet on your team needing you to stomp your own matchup and get them snowballing. Yasuo and Poppy may be too passive for that.

  3. When you jungle, pick a strong duelist like the Vi, Rengar or Khazix that you play, and follow this pattern:

  • gank
  • force the target out of lane or kill them
  • place a deep ward on that side of the jungle immediately after

Bronzies are typically pretty bad at dealing with wards and your teammates can actually start making picks if you give them free vision

  1. When you play any kind of strong diver, always engage from behind whenever you can.

But #1 is the most important part. You have to get that cs up if you plan to climb and stay up. Here's where I looked up your profile for data:

https://na.op.gg/summoner/userName=Cygenic

Cygenic1 votes

Okay thanks.

DragonManSquid1 votes

I didn't read your whole post. All I read was "I get good scores". Good scores and kills don't win games. People who go positive in there games and are hard stuck in low elo are the same people who don't understand singed420's playstyle. Learn to have better decision making.

Dracocrash1 votes

I cant offer you much advice because im lazy but uhh... I know how you feel. Good luck.

p.s: try playing zac, hes good for climbing bronze.

Cygenic1 votes

Thanks

normie sIayer1 votes

I climbed from s5 to g3 from following the LS mindset, watch his videos if you want but here's a tldr. Fuck ur teammates, assume they're all literal toddlers. Focus on nothing but farm and towers and regard your lane opponent as another resource to farm if the opportunity shows itself. Don't force anything, just farm and push. Play brain dead champs that destroy low elo that have: cc, waveclear, survivabilty ex: swain Annie malphite kayle ashe graves yi

Cygenic1 votes

Thanks

Medúsa1 votes

You need to play more impactful champs to start, Vi is good, but try going cinderhulk into tri, unless you are really ahead, i notice you build ninja tabi almost every game, analyze there team and cc how much cc they got, or if the only have one ap champ you can go merc treads then you dont need an mr item, Tanks win games in this elo, my recommendations for jungling is to try super easy carry jungler like diana or wukong, or amumu, and for mid lane, try brand, he is a really under rated easy to play carry, make sure you take deathfire if you try him, and playing champs like TF wont get you anywhere because hes a team dependent champ, you wanna play lane bullies that can snowball, the following imo are best low elo carries.

Top: Renekton/Darius Mid: Brand/Syndra Jg: VI/Amumu ADC: Jinx/Caitlyn with trap max, people cannot avoid cait traps in low elo. Support: Thresh/Karma

As a bonus, Velkoz is a really op cheese pick, you can legit carry games with him support and mid easy. If your good mechanically, ezreal is an amazing adc

Some general tips, Never use your gap closer in a tf as it is your only escape, if you are playing carry hit the closest target unless their carry steps out, you do not need to kill their carries, it is the tanks job unless they step out. Buy control wards. always ward your lanes. stand on top of your minions that are low and when the enemy goes to auto attack them, auto the enemy or if your a mage use your abilities, remember because alot of people dont realize that abilities do not aggro minions, only autos do. aside from that Cs,cs,cs,cs. cant stress that enough, without a doubt the best way to win, play off their mistakes and only cs, and if you feel you are mechanically decent pick up a champ like hecraim or graves and practice counter jungling, it is all about vision, and it really tilts the enemy. goodluck and any further questions or if you need help by playing normals, add me in game. Cøndemñ

Cygenic1 votes

Thanks a ton man

Medúsa1 votes

the best advice i can give you is that a loss does not stop you from where you belong, just face the facts your in bronze and do what you can to improve, its the harsh truth, but we've all been there, i used to think i didnt deserve it, but looking back i realize now i was just bad, just do your best and itll come, pick up on mistakes and focus on one thing out of time, start with cs

Cygenic1 votes

Okay

Medúsa1 votes

Here is an absolutely amazing series which will make your knowledge and skill tenfold of what it is now, highly recommend you watch it, and practice every bit of what he shows you, here is episode 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iko2tqmDpJQ&feature=youtu.be

TokudaShuusei1 votes

I'm no high-elo at my region and just came to play on NA for fun (with 300 ping lul) and just dropped to Bronze 2 from Silver 4 in 2 weeks, as a support main I can't pretty much do anything but mourn over my loss and shut my mouth up except when reporting enemy using ulti or summoner spells. I have to force myself playing ADCs again, tho my two main roles are support and top, but same situation, people in Bronze mostly troll, play for fun and ruin the mood of the game. I can't give you any useful advice for climbing being a low-elo, but if for mental advice, try to read something between queue breaks, game delays or ponder around with your hobbies, helps you a lot to relax and not get tilted in game.I'm also an artist so I sketch and drawing during breaks, play some Bach to cheer myself up or do some little crafting. Mute people when needed, but I actually rarely ever read chat, I only use chat to report stuffs said above, I still have pings active. In game I instant mute enemy team. That's all I could say, good luck climbing bud ^^

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