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Luden's Echo passive triggering Banshees Veil spell shield.

Desert Nomad·4/29/2015, 12:53:36 PM·2 votes·1,330 views

For those of you who do not know, the passive damage charge on Luden's will pop your banshees spell shield. Now I don't think this is too much of a problem on Summoner's Rift, but when it comes to something like ARAM's, facing an AP heavy team with lots of poke makes buying Banshees practically useless, as even the enemy spell hitting a minion near you will trigger your spell shield, even if the ability itself doesn't hit you. Considering that Banshees is primarily picked up vs Spirit Visage FOR the spell shield, I think that this interaction makes it become just a expensive item that gives health and Magic Resist and nothing else. Again, this only happens in this sort of a situation.

Now some of you might ask - "Statikk Shiv would have the same effect, why aren't you complaining about that?"

My answer to that is that the Shiv is mainly picked up by ADCs/Gangplanks and the like and the range on auto attacks is far, far shorter than say a Ziggs Q or a Lulu Glitterlance. And because of that, it's proced far less on an ADC heavy team vs the Luden's proc on an AP heavy team.

Thoughts?

3 Comments

junglerboy164/29/2015, 5:15:03 PM2 votes

That's why you get item 3112 instead. It is superior at blocking poke and sustaining through damage, since the MR is higher and the shield regenerates much more quickly, while having HP5 that is always on. Banshee's is only for blocking crucial engage spells or burst combos, not avoiding harass.

12ocky13alboa7/3/2015, 9:23:55 AM1 votes

It shouldn't pop spellshields, especially since it's an AoE that can hit you from miles away even if you aren't hit by the enemies skillshot.

NoMonku7/3/2015, 10:52:49 AM1 votes

I am personally fine with it. I honestly don't consider buying BV much in ARAM because getting hit by any skill will pop it. Later in the game on a squishy it might save your life or on a tank to help reduce the damage you take when you engage a fight, but outside of this, I dislike the item. Against a full AP poke team item 3190 item 3102 item 3112 item 3111 should be enough MR for you not to die.

The interaction you dislike has another positive as well though. I've been in a few games where we needed to pop the BV on their team in order to engage as we only had Malphite R to go in. The Echo proc helped us bring down the BV so we could engage.