People would rather wait than be autofilled

A TrollPole Main·12/2/2016, 6:28:00 PM·113 votes·3,485 views

Riot you have the philosophy that the longer queue times are the less the game the person is looking for needs to fit. BUT when this comes to auto fill people would rather wait in queue for ten minutes then get auto filled. It takes an extra 7 minutes but then you get to play something you will enjoy if you get auto filled however then you are forced to play a game that will last atleast 20 minutes in a role you might not enjoy. I find myself preferring a Dodge and waiting another 10 minutes to find a game than wanting to play a game in a role I'm bad at.

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NoobLearninGame12/2/2016, 6:44:06 PM18 votes

I think Riot is going for the total number of player monthly dodges world record with the autofill feature.

ZT Xperimentor12/2/2016, 11:33:55 PM6 votes

They should've brought back teambuilder instead of autofill.

SpaceCaptViral12/3/2016, 3:21:14 AM5 votes

I noticed the quality of the games gets pretty low, had a guy play singed support because that was the only "support" champion he had.

Plot twist: his name was Adelaide Skyhart

Cawk Lover GG12/2/2016, 6:41:44 PM5 votes

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Jesus is Savior12/2/2016, 11:29:11 PM4 votes

Autofill also results in it throwing you into your secondary role more, too. Because it's just throwing teams together as fast as possible and isn't prioritizing your primary at all.

Swiftstrike412/3/2016, 10:37:46 AM4 votes

It is amazing how quickly people forget about pick order from season five. Most of the time, if you were last pick you got support. Not much of a discussion you were stuck with the role. People manage and most of the time players learned how to adequately play the support role in the 1/5 chances they were the last pick.

Autofill is great by comparison since the system at least account for you role preference before dropping you into the game. Support is my secondary role, but with the existing dynamic queue system support was beginning to turn into my primary role. People that were support mains were ONLY playing support and people that had support as their secondary or fill as their secondary were most often playing support.

I queued 2 times today in normal draft as "fill" and got mid both times. I was blown away. Back to back games of getting mid when I queued as fill. I actually dislike playing mid and wanted to play support, but figured I would get support by picking fill.

I really think that most of the player base simply needs to get over autofill since pick order was easily much worse by comparison.

I think most of the community will adapt.

Socodemon12/3/2016, 5:01:37 AM3 votes

Yeah, Autofill is trash, should be a clickable option. Personally, trying to slowly claw my way out of bronze. Ranked games(at the very least) should have the option to turn this off. Have had 3 times as many dodges in games trying to start as normal. Also have noticed; of the games i do get to play someone is an autofill which means that lane is toast (90%). Other thing. 3/5 games i do get im am autofilled into.

*edit: more directly to the point Quality of game>speed of queue

Theorchero12/3/2016, 11:00:34 AM3 votes

The thing about auto fill, is it isn't just about role preference. At least, it isn't just about role preference. It's about overall match quality.

What people don't understand is that the longer a queue goes, the less strict the matchmaking becomes. It'll let greater differences of MMR be between the teams. It may adjust the LP accordingly per player based off their MMR, but this combined with premades is why we have auto fill, to help reduce cases where diamonds are against golds or similarly egregious cases.

The only reason it's occurring now is because of preseason resetting everyone's MMR, and because the population at the top of the ladder is smaller there's often not enough players to group the previously high mmr players together. It just doesn't work like that.

Now while I don't like being autofilled, I do believe that every person should be able to play every role somewhat competently. I don't mean that you should be able to carry with every role, but you should be competent enough to farm and not feed your lane. Going even or a little behind is okay if it's not your main roles, we're all human and it happens.

The main reason overall match quality is degraded is honestly because we've been spoiled for the past year of only having to play two roles. I think a decent compromise is to have a selection of three roles in parties of two or less. This way we have much greater flexibility and it may help players who aren't one tricks have variety. Just have primary and secondary, with tertiary essentially being your "auto fill" role.

TaliyahPrime12/3/2016, 2:09:47 AM3 votes

Riot just needs to get rid of autofill. Period. Not much support for the system and most everyone is willing to wait out a longer que for their desired roles.

Dreadlocks12/2/2016, 11:26:24 PM3 votes

find myself preferring a Dodge and waiting another 10 minutes to find a game than wanting to play a game in a role I'm bad at.

Funny story, so this guy got auto filled, and i thought hell ill support for him since he doesnt want to, well my team drafted a mediocre team comp. So i dodged. Later i get auto filled into support and then something came up so i dodged again... now i have a 20 min wait time xD Epic. So not only does right put you in a role you dont want, but if you take advantage of the dodge system you will eventually get punished for that too xD. There is no escape. Might as well go back to season 4 and have pick order.

Prophet of Urgod12/3/2016, 3:50:06 AM2 votes

I would gladly wait then have to support or jungle.

deltemp95151212/3/2016, 3:13:12 PM2 votes

I have a good thread for you. And you're 100% wrong i dont want a 20 minute wait time between games. I dont have that kind of time to kill.

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/8d6E1wxL-what-is-bottlenecking-for-1000-alex

CrazyBear198712/3/2016, 2:18:41 AM2 votes

Aka "People rather wait to play the role they chose for instead of being forced into one that they cant"

Seems..."Logical". People are more likely to do well in a role they are good at rather than leave it to RNG for a random forced roll.

The system sucks, programming logic at it's worst.

SilverDrake12/3/2016, 4:50:35 PM2 votes

A lot of people are dodging than before the preseason. I would rather we go back to the team builder we had in season 5( i think). The only problem we had with team builder was the fact that is nearly impossible to do bans in a system like that.

devdev46312/3/2016, 6:11:58 PM2 votes

Honestly I would rather go back to old champion select than deal with autofill. At least the old champion select was honest with what role you might get. and oh look I just entered a queue and i'm support :^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^).

Sammystorm12/4/2016, 5:05:00 AM2 votes

Speak for your self. I would rather be autofilled then wait.

Bisaknosp12/3/2016, 1:22:25 PM2 votes

not at all stfu

HazyCloud712/2/2016, 11:55:41 PM2 votes

Quality game in role you want to play >>> Shorter queue time but 20-60 mins in a role you do not want to play

As evidenced by the all the dodges. I've heard several people say they have been autofilled after waiting a minute in queue. What in the world is that bs?

Hyperiön12/5/2016, 6:32:44 PM1 votes

The only people who are raging at this are the people who don't know how to multiple roles.

Hramir12/3/2016, 7:04:19 AM1 votes

I haven't played support or adc in over a year. I am absolutely trash at both. The autofill in bronze may as well be you have support. Riot has admitted support is the role people want to play the least and that it doesn't give as much of a "reward" in game for playing it. Making people play support who absolutely hate it will not make them want to play it more. This is not a fix.

notmebuthim12/3/2016, 9:07:38 AM1 votes

My queue times were like 6 minutes, now it takes 15 to get into a game. classic rito

Fargo7912/3/2016, 10:19:08 AM1 votes

since when did u have to choose AUTOFILL for draft?? u dont want a role?? then dont pick it as your 1st or 2nd choice and dont pick autofill.. its simple as that.. then u will sit in queue for 10 mins tryin to get the MID/ADC pref... presonally i just accept that i wont get mid all the time and choose support as 2ndary.. and wow.. i get my prefered role even more now then any since they brought in dynamic queue....

my average queue time is only about 2 mins tops..

Synnx712/3/2016, 10:21:18 AM1 votes

Every season riot must fuck up something isnt it ? Incompetent company

Leon Etoile12/3/2016, 3:07:12 PM1 votes

Here's the thing though if you get auto-filled- you get protection and get your roles next time. Also, just b/c you are auto-filled doesn't mean you can't trade someone.

People dodging auto-fill is actually fucking up queues more.

Mike1703212/3/2016, 4:17:46 PM1 votes

If I ever get auto filled to Jungle or Support I am simply going to dodge. I have no skill at those roles, no rune pages for them, and no champion pool to support it. I have no interest in getting those things either, because those are not what I want to play.

6Sfool12/3/2016, 6:37:56 PM1 votes

...And why don't you enjoy the other roles? Did you just join League because you heard about its awesome top lane, and the others are just fluff? Learn the other lanes, you just might like them. I honestly hated support when I first started out, but that's because I got put with supports that didn't fit my playstyle. Now I'm a fill main.

I will admit that the system needs some tweaks to make people get their preference more often, and to reduce the chance of first-timers facing one-tricks, but most of the change needed is on you to learn at least 1 champ in each role.

About dodging which people have been doing quite a bit lately, lots of people are taking this time to learn new roles for the off-chance that they will get filled. There will be fewer dodges and more well-rounded players in the future, you might as well be one of them.

420 Stylish12/3/2016, 11:44:15 PM1 votes

It's no different to me either way, since if I get autofilled to support or ADC I just leave lobby. I'd rather wait the 5min timer out then play those roles.

coreychichi12/4/2016, 7:49:44 AM1 votes

Go back to the days where you whine and cry in champ select until you get your way? No thanks. People really acting like last pick wasn't auto fill 90% of the time spare me.

Oh and the lovely conversations like this- Mefirst pick: mid Teammate: plzcan I mid Me:no Teammate:plz Me:no Teammate:**** you Teammate:* incessant crying for the rest of champ select*

^^ I'm guessing it's these people who are hating autofill the most. The ones who used to be able to whine/cry/annoy/bully their way into their preferred role every game cause god forbid if they didnt get it their lives were just ruined. No sympathy for the little tykes here.

ZephyrDrake12/4/2016, 7:55:19 AM1 votes

you say this now but i bet the instant Riot gets rid of autofill and people start seeing long queue times everyone will whine at Riot that queue times are too long and how they are willing to sit in queue for 5 - 10 mins at a time