Shaco rework ideas.

deathfast·11/16/2014, 6:47:16 PM·4 votes·1,619 views

I have been primarily using Shaco since season 1 (post nerf) and I have 3000+ games with him. I am no coming here to claim that I am the best or anything of that nature but I am fairly experienced with him. Season after season I have been told how useless Shaco is, so I have decided to dedicate this past season to using him as much as I could. 750 ranked games any role Shaco (ADC Shaco seems to anger people more than anything else).

Shaco has been continuously beaten with the nerf stick since his release. He is a frustrating champ to play against. It's what makes Shaco ...well..... Shaco. It seems that his nerfs are not because he is overpowered, its because he makes it very difficult for newer players. There has been talk for a quite a while about reworking Shaco. I would love to see some changes but I don't want to lose who he is now. He is very effective at doing things behind the scenes to set up the win and a sneaky stealth assassin. For now I will focus on his issues.

Shacos biggest problem is the fact that your team probably doesn't like the fact you picked him. This actually makes the entire game an uphill battle.

Decieve. This is Shaco bread and butter (only skill he really has). You have a choice. Run in as the squishy that you are and hope that for some reason nobody is going to focus you or enter with your Q, put out some damage and get blown up in the teamfight. Change: Whenever shaco gets a kill or an assist while Deceive is on cool down, Shaco is able to enter stealth (not teleport) for 2 seconds. This will increase his survivability in team fights but not allow him to get off the hook for being there.

JITB. A great tool in theory that has just ended up being either a ward or a nest. JITB just doesn't scale. As the game goes on these things are killed before they activate, then you have to wait 15 seconds to drop another. When they do activate, they do no damage. With the recent fear changes, shacos original jitb wouldn't be so bad. The fear change alone takes champions out of attack range. Change: Shaco can hold up to 3 JITB's. 3 seconds cool down between placement. 20 seconds JITB ammo respawn. Max 3 JITB placement. JITB health scales with AP JITB Damage scales with AD. Remove timer after being triggerd. JITB continuously lose health after being triggered. JITB rearms if no unit is in range for 2 seconds. This will allow JITB to be useful late game.

Two-Shiv I'm not really sure why this is called "Two-Shiv Poison". There's only one and it's not a poison. Not really sure why it does magic damage either. There is not a lot to determine when you should use this other than "they are in range of AA or not". They are going to be slow anyways. Change: Miss Chance to Non-Champion Units removed. Active now applies a 1, 1.25, 1.5, 1.75, 2 seconds blind (Comon, look at the icon). This would allow you to make a decision on when to use two shiv.

Hallucinate Ok so perhaps Switching places with the clone was a little too op. One can try, right? Change: How about we remove that clone takes 50% extra damage, Give the clone buff auras and Have the flying daggers that explode outward scale off of AD.

It's been 3 years........

6 Comments

SouL1ess11/16/2014, 7:12:25 PM2 votes

Miss chance to non-champion units removed

Why? Just to make Jungle shaco harder?

Junkο11/16/2014, 7:43:10 PM1 votes

Change: How about we remove that clone takes 50% extra damage, Give the clone buff auras and Have the flying daggers that explode outward scale off of AD.

No. I rather have the 500 dmg nuke when clone explodes when 1v1ing and enemy picks the wrong target than a cosmetic effect that would only work in your favor if you have jungle buffs(Shaco already displays some items like GA, or is affected by the aura Shaco himself gives and still gets the animation)

Der Metzger11/16/2014, 8:21:32 PM1 votes

his boxes need to be reworked, too many times they get destroyed before they even fear or stealth its retarded.....maybe it just placin them at a bad time but i mean cmon if lucian freakin uses his passive he can kill box unknowingly....

deathfast11/18/2014, 3:39:37 AM1 votes

Any love for shaco?