Lowest Winrate, Highest Banrate

Lakalive··3 votes·1,796 views

Akali, used to be one of my favorite champions to play. The rework brought in an amazing graphical re-haul that she really needed, however, the rework to her abilities was unnecessary. Unfortunately, she is now the at the bottom of the list for winrate and the top for banrate. Knowing this, its obvious something is wrong with this rework. I personally believe she needs to be reverted, if absolutely necessary make some small changes to her old kit, but overall, she needs her old ult, Q, passive, and shroud. Please bring her back to her old self, she is in one of the worst positions a champion can be in.

23 Comments

Dynikus6 votes

Riot is well aware her kit is problematic, specifically her shroud. They're testing things to make it more fair to play against. That would bring her banrate down, and let them buff other things to bring her winrate back up.

VolatileAkali1 votes

Hahaha well aware? They nerfed the fuck out of shroud, because they didn't want to remove the true invis. Old mechanics which helped us against countless champions got removed, especially this (Targeted abilities and uncancellable basic attacks (ex. Nasus's Q - Siphoning Strike are no longer canceled when Akali stealths or re-stealths). All changes are fine, but this fucked her up real bad.

I hope they fix her, but I really doubt they could make her healthy for the game. I want to eat my words later if they do, but I am 99% sure they will not do that.

xDelightifyx1 votes

ypu are still untargetable. Its still ridiculously overpowered, you are just crying cause its not ths most overpowered spell out of all moba games anymore. It still is way to strong.

VolatileAkali1 votes

Oh and what is the basis that it's stilL OP? And the most OP out of all moba games? Her W currently is just annoying as fuck and only strong in tower dives, 1v1 1v2, and 2v2 situations. Team fights are pretty much not an option most of the time unless they're a bunch of apes and don't focus you WHICH IS VERY UNLIKELY or your just a god at her which 99.99% of people aren't. Most people can't play her much to become good with her.

xDelightifyx1 votes

Not like shes overloaded enough, no, you want her to be the best teamfighter ontop. You freaking Assasine Players need to realise that Assasine were a niche pick, to hardcounter/punish adcs, or squishy midlaners. If Riot Adresses ridiculously overpowered shit (like rengar was for example, or Akli, or Talon for sure) you start complaoning, about your champ beeing to weak. But have you ever considered that your class/categorie of champion overall ist overpowered this season. Akalk was (and the shroud still is) super ridiculously strong, no matter if you could play her or not (Like every Assasine, but thats my personal opinion, and most likely not true). Now shes still dealing to much dmg, for the utility she has. Assasines shouldnt be good in teamfights, nor against tanks (sadly they are in this meta), cause they should hard counter you. Stop complaining about nerfs if your champ is close to beeing a joke, because of how ridiculoisly strong he was/is. After the nerfs shes still way to strong champion, for how much utility her shroud provides.

VolatileAkali1 votes

Yes she is over loaded, but not fucking op, and yes assassins should at least have some team fighting capability, it doesn't need to be grand. It just needs to be good enough to make them kill the carries, which old Akali did very well. Talon, LB and other assassins can team fight decently, but Akali doesn't?

Fucking biased ass community.

xDelightifyx1 votes

Talon can only if hes hyperfed and lb straight up is unbalced (see proplayers opinions for this topic). No Assines should be good in a 1 v 1, maybe a 2 v 1,. if they are rlly fed. Your job is to kill the carrys, most likely if u can catch them of guard. Assasines dont have any cc or spalsh damage (most of the time) ao they automatically are worse in teamfights. Like seriously, she already way to. overloaded and u want her to be even stronger, just because u dont win as much as u like to.

VolatileAkali1 votes

Talon doesn't need to be hyper fed, and LB didn't get a massive rework to make her balanced, but they wanted to explore their wild ideas with a niche champion with a small player base, so they KNOW that we can't do shit.

I'm not talking giving them utility, I mean giving them burst especially Akali, she can't burst for shit after 25min+, because they'll one shot you even if you did everything as best as humanly possible.

No i want them to nerf her over all and buff her burst, stop bring lies out of your ass.

xDelightifyx1 votes

because they'll one shot you even if you did everything as best as humanly possible.

Sounds familiar to me. Sounds like Assasines during Season 8. You complain about stuff you are doing aswell so i dont see your point.

Its impossible to nerf someone, but higher his burst. If someone deals. more dmg in a shorter ammount of time, thats a clear buff. They Shorund and her ult would have to be gutted entirely (aka deletrd) to make her belanced if you would buff her burst.

VolatileAkali1 votes

They could make a game play rework to make her much easier to counter play, and play as, but as now, yes you can nerf someone but also buff their burst.

Nerf her over all damage with passive and q, make her burst reliable and maybe make decrease her cd by 10 at all ranks.

Sasogwa1 votes

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Riot is well aware her kit is problematic, specifically her shroud. They're testing things to make it more fair to play against. That would bring her banrate down, and let them buff other things to bring her winrate back up.

The first thing they did is make her shroud give true invisibility. Not sure if they're trolling us

ı Sona ı4 votes

Her shroud is perfectly fine and functions as normal. Her kit is basic and predictable.

VolatileAkali2 votes

I disagree, with the shroud part. Though she is kind of predictable if you learn how to counter play her a bit.

ı Sona ı1 votes

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I disagree, with the shroud part. Though she is kind of predictable if you learn how to counter play her a bit.

While you can't target her directly with things some auto seeking things still function. I recently killed an Akali in her Shroud with auto attacks thanks to a nearby minion wave and Runaans hurricane multi target hitting her in the shadow while I auto'd minions. This makes me assume that Brands R would bounce off her even if he didn't target her first if another minion/champion were near by. I haven't heard if TF's ult is strong enough to reveal Akali in Shroud though.

xDelightifyx1 votes

it is not, same like lulus e cant make her visible, although it especially says that it gives true sight on a champ. But hey true invis is of course stronger than true sight, because it was implememted later. Not like this spells are made especially to counter abilitys like the shroud... Edit: If she had no shroud at all, or if was just normal invis she wouldnt be banned. But the Banrate should show that this is neither fair, nor balanced, nor healthy.

ı Sona ı1 votes

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it is not, same like lulus e cant make her visible, although it especially says that it gives true sight on a champ. But hey true invis is of course stronger than true sight, because it was implememted later. Not like this spells are made especially to counter abilitys like the shroud... Edit: If she had no shroud at all, or if was just normal invis she wouldnt be banned. But the Banrate should show that this is neither fair, nor balanced, nor healthy.

Also while pix might not reveal her, it will follow her, which can be just as good for managing your area attacks to keep on her in shroud.

There is nothing wrong with characters having their own kits that make them unique. Ziggs can execute turrets. Pyke can execute players. Neeko can make herself look like other champions including their auto attacks and animations (a Neeko that turned into DJ Sona even had the mute/unmute sound button next to her name on the score board).

If you are having trouble facing Akali with who you normally use, try someone else.

xDelightifyx1 votes

funny though, but if you are having trouble playing akali, against any champion, try someone else [slayer-jinx-wink]

VolatileAkali1 votes

Well I'm getting trouble with jax, and I'm re-learning Kennen to beat him on a secondary account.

Edit: And I'm a fucking Akali OTP.

VolatileAkali1 votes

Ok I'll admit that your probably right, but they nerfed her so much that most Akali mains can't team fight wither her, and yes I know assassins are basically shit at team fighting, but Akali had become the worst assassin to team fight (Arguably).

hoganftw2 votes

I will, until the day I die, continue to ban Akali.

Lakalive2 votes

If we all dislike the way she is now, why not revert her? I am being biased towards the old Akali I know that she was my favorite champ to play. I just want honest opinions from people who have seen both sides of her, i've only played her, very rarely played against her...was she in that bad of a spot?

PhearBunny2 votes

I have no idea why her winrate is what it is. I very rarely see Akalis lose games when they slip through ban phase. Id say they win 8 out of 10 games I see them in, and end up being like 21-2 everytime.

Cats Are Food1 votes

When the Ban Rate is far higher than the Win Rate it simply means:

Easy to Shut down Not Fun At All to play against.

You'd rather just not play against it, even if it's unlikely to win.

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