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The ADC role is dead

Casual Bronze·6/26/2016, 11:34:34 PM·6 votes·5,152 views

Let's count the ways an ADC is just plain screwed.

  1. ADC's are the SLOWEST champions in the game (movement speed). The only exceptions are Ezreal (who RIOT just loves for some reason) and that's only because of his arcane shift, and Lucian for his dash. Everyone else, screwed. Don't give me that Jihn or Jinx crap either, Jihn benefits from not having to build attack speed and Jinx is only when she's around a kill.

  2. Since the nerf to Quick Silver Sash ADCs have NO ANSWERS to dive champions at all. Zed gets his ultimate and the ADC is deleted. Knocked up by Yasuo=deleted, grabbed by blitzcrank=deleted. The list goes on and on.

  3. The ADC is so DEPENDENT on the rest of the team that it's disgusting. A bad support player means that the ADC will get harassed/poked/killed until he/she is so far behind that you may as well disconnect (at least then the ADC won't continue feeding). If the ADC is out of position for one instant in a team fight he/she will die. An assassin or other dive champion manages to get to the back line and the rest of the team doesn't react, the ADC is dead.

  4. Any ITEMS that are meant for ADCs are used better by bruisers and assassins. Assassins will hit harder than any ADC ever will and they are mobile with low cool downs. I can't even count the amount of times a Zed, Master Yi, or Yasuo have engaged in 5v1 fights and won. They're using the same items as an ADC would, yet if an ADC even attempts to 5v1 he/she will 99% of the time lose. Bruisers only need 1 attack item and they can burst down more champions at a time and stay in the fight because they have so much armor/magic resist. It's truly disgusting.

I know that these reasons are almost non-existent in higher elos and in pro matches, but 60% of players are in bronze/silver and we can't farm well, and we can't position perfectly either (some of us have jobs and other responsibilities that keep us from dedicating more than 2 matches to this game). But even if we did have more time, the continued item nerfs and the fact that when an item is good the assassins and bruisers can just use them better and the fact that most ADCs are irrelevant because of their movement begs the question, why even have an ADC? I can see the future of league being an assassin mid with the mage bot, more damage with better mobility this way.

Not that RIOT will ever read this post or even consider my rant at all relevant because I'm not a pro player and I'm not making them millions of dollars in revenue.

28 Comments

Bears Dont Care6/27/2016, 12:01:58 AM3 votes

I fail to see how ADC's are a dead role when they've been mandatory for some time now and probbly will be in the future.

Dęep6/27/2016, 12:12:28 AM2 votes

If you're good at adc he/she can outplay a lot of the assasins and also with a coordinating support he/she, it can really show how vital the role is.

Being a support main myself, I have played with adc's that can solo lane while I roam and I have played with those that need me following them throughout the game. I personally feel it's just experience and the more you play it the more you will understand how to outplay the assasins/continue to play the important role that it is.

Mashiró6/27/2016, 4:14:19 AM2 votes

the adc role is a bit weak right now because of all the changes, i will agree with that. However the adc role is not dead. There are many times where adc straight carry the game. You are thinking about everything that COULD happen like zed, blitz, yasuo. The thing is though, the old qss never even got rid of yas knock up, or blitz pull. so the game has always been like that not just now. If you are talking about how higher elo doesnt have these problems because they are good, low elo is going to have SOO many more problems inevitably. For example, saying you are going to get poked and harassed out of lane because of your support is not a good excuse for adc's being "dead" thats just how some lanes go. Like a ezreal, cait, varus, ashe combined with a support like lulu, karma, sona, zyra. choose any of those champs and you will get harassed and poked, THATS JUST HOW IT IS, but if you choose a good ad that scales well later, like sivir, vayne, jinx then there isnt much you and your support can do anyway in a poke lane. There is always a way to work around a zed, yas or yi you just need to know how, and if you cant that isn't the adc role being bad, that is you and your team not knowing enough or the enemy being just to fed. Maybe the adc role has gotten harder to get good at, but it is definitely not dead.

Serf Master6/27/2016, 1:35:46 AM2 votes

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=imCX2QaQO3k

get gud

Dimmac6/27/2016, 12:41:49 AM1 votes

ADC is fine but only against certain teams. Like miss fortune for instance is amazing against tanks, other adc or most casters with her BIGGEST! downfall being slows and gap closers like vi or rengar. Just play to your champs strengths and be knowledgeable about their counters.

khorney6/27/2016, 2:09:46 AM1 votes

correction varus is the weakest and slowest adc in the game period. every adc has something on him.

Darkyahweh16/1/2017, 2:36:15 PM1 votes

Sad fact, the likes to dislike ratio will ALWAYS be negative for this kind of post no matter how factual it is because rito can't see the tree in their own fucking office where APC IS THE MOST COMMON ROLE AND BY DEFAULT WILL ALWAYS DISLIKE THIS KIND OF POST... Jesus like look at most preferred role rito... it's in your damn face... ADC Is dead... I can literally play cass or ziggs bot and rape every single time if I have ANY ad type jungle and top... it's just over... It shouldn't take 37 hits to kill leona at level 1 and 20 hits to kill cass at level 1... adc base damage and health is too damn low for this kind of shit to be "OK"... let's do some simple math ok? Cass = Higher base health + Higher base damage + Higher base mana + higher base move-speed + higher scale-ability + faster scale-ability + higher amounts of cc... So here is the riddle, HOW THE FUCK DOES AN ADC... OVERCOME THAT?!?!?!?

I mean if you lose at all points of the game you will NEVER get to a point where you can win... and if you get out-scaled in the late game you lose at the point too... it's literally a YOU ALWAYS LOSE situation... I have been diamond for many many years... but this year... I can't even get close unless I abuse cass and ziggs in bot which is borderline retarded...

I have a degree in computer science... I KNOW you took math... so why the hell do you suck so badly at it?

Hayaishi26/26/2016, 11:42:01 PM1 votes

ADC do feel shitty to play because your impact is determined to hard by your team, but the role is FAR from the dead, i don't understand how you can suggest that.

Stalin19269/10/2017, 12:51:55 AM1 votes

I agree completely with the initial post. With regard to those who say, you just need to get better, ADC's are so dependent upon their supports, and the supports s*ck so frequently, that the jump-and-kill characters basically prevent genuine improvement. ADC's, like my beloved Caitlyn, need their turn to be powered up. Riot keeps creating more and more powerful AP champs and tanks and assassins, and smart people BUY them, but the original idea of the game, that someone needs to be constantly laying down minion fire and team fight fire, has been lost. It is a game of burst attackers, essentially.

Mimy6/26/2016, 11:46:24 PM1 votes

Garen : DEMACIA!!!!

  • ENEMY PENTAKILL!!!!!
WoonStruck6/27/2016, 12:22:50 AM1 votes

ADCs are broken in nearly every meta.

Its a question of how broken the outliers among other classes are at any given time.

Çhåryzård6/27/2016, 12:37:15 AM1 votes

It's not dead

Just play Lucian Jhin MissFortune Caitlyn

and then you're good