Having to buy a pink ward late game to fight vayne is no fun

LeeZesuo··3 votes·514 views

To be honest, I think vayne is way too strong. She has a 2 second psuedo dash and can stun you for a long time near walls. She can go stealth and completely obliterate you with her true damage. It's getting boring being 1v1d by a vayne who only has a botrk when I have two items because of her stealth screwing up autos and then her 10% max hp true damage putting my defenses and items to waste. I literally went full build lucian vs a 2 tank item vayne and still managed to get 3 shot. Either make the red scanner show actual units instead of the shades, or make it so you can put pink wards on the 7 slot.

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Spanked eGirl1 votes

http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/jLGvQ3Wk-before-you-make-a-post-about-balance

Shes on the lower side of ADCs performance right now and there's a really nifty thing with this item 3364 that lets you see where she is dashing next.

LeeZesuo1 votes

Seeing where she's dashing next doesn't matter when you're trying to kill her as fast as possible because you still can't attack her or see her actual model.

Spanked eGirl1 votes

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Seeing where she's dashing next doesn't matter when you're trying to kill her as fast as possible because you still can't attack her or see her actual model.

What you're looking is for freebies. That doesnt mean she is OP or needs changed. She is a short range, 1v1ing adc or one that needs a lot of peel made for her. Read through that balance post and learn some things

LeeZesuo1 votes

She has 550 range which is standard. You're trying to look at stats when Vayne isn't even played that often. It's not freebies, she's definitely not a low end adc, vayne is quite possibly the strongest adc possible.

Spanked eGirl1 votes

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She has 550 range which is standard. You're trying to look at stats when Vayne isn't even played that often. It's not freebies, she's definitely not a low end adc, vayne is quite possibly the strongest adc possible.

If this is your main then LOL for not even reaching level 30 and knowing all the matchups of who is the strongest. If not, I am guessing it is bronze elo if you can't deal with a vayne. You not wanting to work or being able to deal with a skill matchup, once again, is not grounds for changes. You want to ruin the game by making everything simple and easy.

Heroes of the Storm is by Blizzard, not Riot.

LeeZesuo1 votes

No this is not my main, but you're obviously not experienced since you call bullshit like a unlimited stealth % max hp true damage adc a skill matchup. You say that she needs peel as if no other adc does lol. Vayne can peel for herself with her botrk, condemn, and STEALTH. just stop talking because you have no idea how to play

XPL Turdong2 votes

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She has 550 range which is standard. You're trying to look at stats when Vayne isn't even played that often. It's not freebies, she's definitely not a low end adc, vayne is quite possibly the strongest adc possible.

Vayne is one of the most underperforming, underpowered adcs right now. She's meant to be a super carry lategame, but with the way the meta is, games end before she can get to her point of being strong, not only does that weaken her, but the othe adcs that get picked right now absolutely body her at most stages of the game.

Her tumble is extremely short range, has a really long cooldown until you max it, and can easily get you killed if not used properly.

Her stealth is only usable along with tumble which as i said, has a really long cooldown early-mid and is easy to mess up.

If it gets to a point where vayne is "obliterating you" then her true damage isn't the problem, it's that she got fed enough to obliterate you.

Her condemn into a wall for the stun requires you to either misposition or her to position really well, either of which is fine because she either outplayed you by finding a wall to pin you to, or you misplayed by standing near a wall.

Your problem isn't vayne, your problem is you trying to 1v1 an adc that is meant to be a duelist with good single target damage and outplayability, when playing lucian who is more skirmishing.

If you're not playing a tank she's going to deal a lot more physical damage than true damage to you, so I don't know why you continue to mention her true damage as a problem.

At a point where you're full build, that's where vayne is going to thrive most. Unless you build defensive it doesn't matter how many items you have you can still get 3 shot. Being full build doesn't change what vayne can do.

paisy1 votes

Just saying, Vayne is one of the most popular adcs right now

Dasdi961 votes

This whole stealth issue needs to be addressed. Why is it that your auto attack is canceled when the enemy goes into stealth.

Truly Prideful1 votes

They just need to put the pink ward upgrade back in for the yellow trinket. It would help a lot of things.

Athenes Lulu1 votes

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Though Akali is the closest thing to "sustained DPS" compared to the rest of the group. Twitch usually hides in the backlines, and you don't need a pink during fights to deal with him.

All of them (including Vayne) usually dies upon hitting a few CC and heavy DPS spells, so it's more on a matter of how quickly someone mashes certain buttons, as dumb as this sounds.

Don't get me wrong here, a pink ward replacement for your trinket slot would definitely be great, though.

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