Huge fiddle nerf to Dark Wind - have balance team ever played fiddle?

karps··3 votes·811 views

In a game that's about pushing and objectives, it's like walking around with (a 25% stronger) exhaust on 24/7 now

How can you even pretend that this is a buff? E isn't even fiddles main jungle clearing tool, its the W - you clear blue, toad, wolf, big and small raptors, even most of the golems (because E isn't strong enough at that point) with the W, in fact now this damages the raptors too much so you can't lifedrain that well on them. Before you needed to lifedrain a full hp small raptor to finish it off while your E came back. Why the hell would you play fiddle jungle anymore when your team is down one pusher? You're going to see his winrate drop so hard, because he is just unable to push or have any effect on the map now. It wasn't his high ulti cd that was a problem, because you'd always be comboing this with zhonya.

The significance of the ulti cd reduction only kicks in at level 16 and even then its useless, because you need zhonya or you are instadead. With stopwatch nerfed to oblivion, its even more useless. Fiddle is all about landing that big ult, then pushing or taking objectives as a team.

200-300 gold of value for the cd reduction on only the ult, but lose 135% ap ratio on total damage for dark wind (worthless cd decrease), and this is supposed to be a buff, lol. This change is just ridiculous. People who say its a buff (Even fiddle mains) will start to see after playing for a bit truly just how worthless this character is now. 0 waveclear + not a tank = worthless champ.

Please play the champs that you nerf before you nerf them please. Fiddle already had so much counterplay its not funny.

5 Comments

Fear the Kayn1 votes

It's because he was being played as a support, and his E poke is absolutely insane.

Disulfiram1 votes

E poke has been buffed: it has lower CD now at early levels, but lost the bonus damage versus minions.

Nyxissa1 votes

Early E poke is buffed, late is worse because he can't put Luden's where he wants, and has weaker waveclear now.

Disulfiram1 votes

They wanted to buff jungle fiddle; since mid fiddle didn't need a buff, they had to contextually nerf him mid.

There were options that would have buffed junglesticks without touching lanesticks (like letting E bounce off himself), but my guess is that they chose to buff fiddle's strong point (post-6 teamfighting) instead of buffing his weak point (early dueling in the jungle)... makes sense, it's a way of trying to help him without removing too much counterplay.

Jmman1 votes

Then you realize this did nothing for him in the jungle.

Event in the jungle its a Nerf late game. He is already weak. So they made him use more mana and clear a few second fast...

Still can't protect jungle, gank pre-6, etc etc etc.

I play fiddle from season 1 to now. It can't be played anywhere but support now. They just killed mid for no reason and gave us some bullshit buff that did nothing. Sure if they fixed the jungle no one would be mad. But when you trash mid and then jungle still sucks because Riot balance team has not clue about the champs they don't play. Shaco needs nerf but 54% win rate champs don't WTF is going on at Riot.

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