[INGAME SCOREBOARD] Sorting the in-game (TAB) scoreboard, in Dynamic/Ranked queue

DBFBlackbull·5/28/2016, 11:29:25 PM·1 votes·1,017 views

DISCLAIMER I know this problem has been posted on the forums previously. In this post I try to combine all the information scattered out on different posts.

This post has also been posted on EUW forums for higher exposure. For that post go to: http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/AVxOmsNQ-ingame-scoreboard-sorting-the-in-game-tab-scoreboard-in-dynamicranked-queue DISCLAIMER

After the implementation of the dynamic queue, we have been given the option to pick our prefered lane. This is awesome and greatly improves the gameplay experience. However when we get into the game the scoreboard is sorted depending on champion select and not on role select. This is tedious to sort out every time for one's personal preferences. I have read through the board for similar topics and I will here try to combine all the information I have gathered, both Pro and Con

Information gathered Pro: Auto sorting would help / remove the following problems

  • A lot of people sort out the lanes every single game to make the lanes match up with each other to quickly be able to identify cs, items, kills, and level differences. It is tedious and auto sorting this would remove this annoying process.
  • Players who sort the scoreboard during the start of the game, tend to drag and drop onto the shop (through the scoreboard) and opening it unintentionally. Further making the process irritating
  • Players who prefer a sorted scoreboard, but forget to sort it from game to game, get annoyed by the now unordered information they receive.
  • Players who sort the scoreboard during the start of the game gets delayed for possible invades as they require one more action before moving out i.e. Sort scoreboard -> Buy items -> Move out for invade, while other people only Buy items -> Move out for invade. This splits the group and diminishes teamwork and can quickly lead to team members blaming each other for not moving fast enough, or not waiting. Alternatively the player who is sorting can do it on the move, which might lead to an open scoreboard while the enemy is encountered.
  • Players who prefer a custom sorting (i.e. themselves at top of the scoreboard) can still do this by dragging the players around and will have an easier time finding themselves and can more quickly create their custom sorting, as the starting setup will be the same every time.
  • When players change role during champion select, the player related change needed to fix this is minimal, as it is commonly only two people who has to be switched.

Con: Possible problems it would introduce / make exploitable

  • Flex pick: It relay information about the opponents match up or composition before they move to lane. If the enemy has an Ekko and Zed, showing what lane they picked, can help you counter them, buying either Doran's or Cloth armor (assuming summoner spells are the same). Without sorting the lanes this information is hidden until the player enters the lane.

My recommended idea

  1. Auto sort the lanes for both teams in the order used during LCS with: Top, Jung, Mid, ADC, Support
  2. Players who prefer a different ordering can be allowed to manually sort by dragging or even better.
  3. Just like we have Recommended and Custom Items in the shop, add Recommended and Custom Scoreboard Sorting. That way people can always have the sorting they like (i.e. having themselves at the top of the scoreboard), and no one has to manually sort the scoreboard.

Addressing the Flex pick I do see the problem with relaying more information to the opponents team, and rendering flex picks less effective. My counter argument is that, since your Runes and Masteries are already locked at this point, the only difference is going to be a single item for the start of the game, which I think do not make a big difference for the outcome of the game.

For people who still think this is a big problem and the amount of information given is way too high, I recommend two three solutions:

  1. Auto-sort your own team, but leave the enemy team scrabled to preserved the veil of confusion
  2. Auto-sort your own team, and let the enemy team stay scrambled for ~2-3 mins. That way both teams will have followed minions to lane, and any possible flex pick will have been revealed as they are now in vision.
  3. Auto-sort both teams in Normal games as these (according to popular beliefs) are more casual and winning and losing does not matter as much because "its just normal", and leave Rank games unsorted (for the enemy team), to retain the information.

I do realize that the 3rd option has user experience problems as two semingly equal game modes have different setups, which can confused the uninformed player. However I believe it is a worthy tradeoff to give the game a small quality of life improvement.

I would love to know what you guys think about my ideas.

References for all other posts I was able to find on this topic LoL Boards: http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/suggestions-bug-reports-en/jBEjmEpE-scoreboard http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/q1YowBg3-sorting-the-scoreboard-in-game http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/suggestions-bug-reports-en/vo2Tw0aJ-what-about-putting-the-champions-in-the-right-order-in-the-scoreboard http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/champions-gameplay-en/gLBAmciv-fix-the-scoreboard-ordering-according-to-chosen-role http://boards.euw.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/community-creations-en/zHwIAKat-sort-button-in-tab-menu http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/ybLRtB70-pre-sort-the-scoreboard-you-know-our-lanes http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/3phAR8G7-semi-sorted-scoreboard http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/86p5i0wE-scoreboard-sorting http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/qFH39IPE-scoreboard-ordering http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/skin-champion-concepts/U5dZ5vNE-mirror-scoreboard-layout http://boards.na.leagueoflegends.com/en/c/gameplay-balance/q8fnTY9G-enhancing-the-scoreboard-menu

Reddit /r/leaugeoflegends: https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/3kfq0n/can_the_champion_scoreboard_attempt_to_presort/ https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4gqj1z/ranked_ingame_scoreboard_players_order_small_qol/ https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4hwhox/little_idea_about_the_scoreboard_tab/ https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/45ij6b/can_the_scoreboard_be_organized_according_to_role/ https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4218q4/queue_types_where_youre_assigned_your_role_should/ https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/4gt9i2/idea_sort_the_scoreboard_according_to_the_roles/ https://www.reddit.com/r/leagueoflegends/comments/433mtw/intelligent_scoreboard_order_for_new_champion_pick/

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