Sion's passive

OhNoMan··1 votes·696 views

New Sion is great, I love running around roaring and smashing stuff, but something really has to be done about his passive. The moment it gets popped anyone that has even minimal cc can laugh it off. It feels awful and frustrating. Make his MS ramp up as his health decreases or give him an immunity to slows for the duration. Just something, anything, to make it not feel like you're being humiliated every time you die.

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BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

There's always a chance most of the time they have already used their CC before you died, so it's enough chances you can counter-attack in your passive form a bit better than being alive. Everyone should already be aware that:

  1. Cast time of passive

That mini 1 second wait before the passive actives is to give the opponent some time to back instead of staying back like a dummy.

  1. The boosted stats

You have already received about 100% lifesteal & lots of attack speed stats. Of course most of the time it wouldnt be affective, but his passive is NOT meant to be a 100% "u kill me, i kill u, fair trade" style.

  1. Movement speed boost

Your QWE is replaced with movement speed boost, so why must you ask so much for more movement speed boosts?

I may not be a Sion main, but whenever I get to use him, I will always have to live off my Sion playstyle regarding with these 3 tips.

Agidyne2 votes

There's always a chance most of the time they have already used their CC before you died, so it's enough chances you can counter-attack in your passive form a bit better than being alive. Everyone should already be aware that:

  1. Cast time of passive

That mini 1 second wait before the passive actives is to give the opponent some time to back instead of staying back like a dummy.

  1. The boosted stats

You have already received about 100% lifesteal & lots of attack speed stats. Of course most of the time it wouldnt be affective, but his passive is NOT meant to be a 100% "u kill me, i kill u, fair trade" style.

  1. Movement speed boost

Your QWE is replaced with movement speed boost, so why must you ask so much for more movement speed boosts?

I may not be a Sion main, but whenever I get to use him, I will always have to live off my Sion playstyle regarding with these 3 tips.

I'm sorry, why should the enemies be able to back when it already is extremely easy to kite Sion?

Why the fuck are my QWER replaced with a meaningless movement speed boost, they don't even allow me to use summoners while on the f*cking passive. How much sense does it make?

Sion feels awesome but very very lackluster.

His R is so easy to dodge that it becomes a joke.

Morganas Dark binding has a larger hitbox than that shit.

But no, everything in this game must have "counterplay", and then there is Ryze.

Dryditch1 votes

Thissssssssss^ just give us back the old Ult and passive.

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

There's always a chance most of the time they have already used their CC before you died, so it's enough chances you can counter-attack in your passive form a bit better than being alive. Everyone should already be aware that:

  1. Cast time of passive

That mini 1 second wait before the passive actives is to give the opponent some time to back instead of staying back like a dummy.

  1. The boosted stats

You have already received about 100% lifesteal & lots of attack speed stats. Of course most of the time it wouldnt be affective, but his passive is NOT meant to be a 100% "u kill me, i kill u, fair trade" style.

  1. Movement speed boost

Your QWE is replaced with movement speed boost, so why must you ask so much for more movement speed boosts?

I may not be a Sion main, but whenever I get to use him, I will always have to live off my Sion playstyle regarding with these 3 tips.

I'm sorry, why should the enemies be able to back when it already is extremely easy to kite Sion?

Why the fuck are my QWER replaced with a meaningless movement speed boost, they don't even allow me to use summoners while on the f*cking passive. How much sense does it make?

Sion feels awesome but very very lackluster.

His R is so easy to dodge that it becomes a joke.

Morganas Dark binding has a larger hitbox than that shit.

But no, everything in this game must have "counterplay", and then there is Ryze.

Because you can do the same if you're against a Sion? Like I said, no such thing as a 100% "u kill me, then let me kill u" thing. Either whine, or make it work with builds and w/e.

In return, you gain a tremendous lifesteals & attack speed, and each attacks will deal like 10% of maximum health, will be more vicious if built with item 3074 & item 3022, how is this not enough....?

He is a fighter/tank, not an assassin. Like Riot just said, he is a slow, tanky behemoth, excels in gaining bonus free HP over time and shiet combine with heavy CC.

Then always be aware of enemies' position by looking at the mini-map. I never really missed THAT much when I play jungle Sion.

Does Morgana's Q goes through minions and deals AoE damage & CC, dicckhead?

Riot already has nerfs set and ready for him in the next patch to lower his poking potential. And btw, even Darius counters Ryze without mobility.

Agidyne1 votes

Are you like

Bronze?

Maybe low silver

idk

BeatzBoyFTW1 votes

Are you like

Bronze?

Maybe low silver

idk

Me (Silver): Comes up with multiple optional facts & tips even if most of it does not work.

You(Platinum): whine whine whine whine.

Is this your point?

Agidyne1 votes

Optimal facts & tips 101

Your optional facts & tips don't work anywhere above low gold.

You must really tell me what sort of enemies will just stand there after they hear Sions ultimate.

And how you are forced to build the f*cking Bronze Mallet to make sure the enemies don't get away.

Like, seriously, the champion has the most unreliable kit in the whole game, "but no, it's very balanced, if it hits it hits hard" ignoring the fact that it nearly ever does.

You are being like those who say "zomg, stop complaining, cassio is so good after the rework, you just need to adapt to her new kit and hold every game for 55 minutes to become useful". Ignoring the fact that you probably won't.

At least the old Sion had a point&click stun that would at least make sure he would win trades in the top lane.

Don't get me wrong.

I love Sions new kit, I hate how unreliable it is, how a Bronze player can dodge your ultimate without even being aware of it, how people with less than 600 ping will be able to dodge a fully charged Q. If you don't charge it for at least 1 second, you will deal minimal damage. If you charge it for more than that, you will deal 0 damage as you most likely won't hit it.

HalloweenDeath1 votes

Sion gets countered by cc. Deal with it. Every champion has a weakness. It's just a passive and it has no cooldown at all.

Leti the Yeti1 votes

everyone gets countered by cc

-besides olaf, occassionally tryn and morg

OhNoMan1 votes

Every champion in the game gets countered by cc and it's not a revive passive so the cooldown is irrelevant.

rdiddy15511 votes

There needs to be a more potent form of tenacity on the ult like 50%. One Fiddlestick fear lasts long enough for Sion to just bleed out. There is literally nothing to be done about it. Other CC works the same. Since his tweaks in this last patch Sion bleeds out way too fast, so much so that probably 80% off the games CC will prevent him from scoring more than 1 punch. On top of this the melee requirement means Sion has to run hit someone and then chase again before he can hit again. Even with his move speed q/w/e/r this means that he loses several punches to the quarky melee chase mechanics. I've even had times where Sions punch animation took so long that he would catch an enemy go to punch then realize he is too far and chase again to try and punch and never actually land a swing. He's a glitchy champ whos entire kit is easier to dodge than the new Nid spears.

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