Like WHY is that even allowed? Illaoi literally just 2 shot the Nasus and throughout the rest of the game my and my friends in this video couldn't really do much to her unless we did a 1v5 with her, and even then she killed 1-3 people. Please Rito, fix this
Deneviel5 votesJumping on a illa, that is ahead, in the tentacles zone while getting caught in the E and R ..... yup OP as hell.
Quepha4 votesIllaoi already had a kill on Nasus. Nasus built a mana crystal. A mana crystal. You're playing Evelynn.
Almost no viable top laners should be unable to 1v2 in that situation even before you consider Nasus starting the fight perfectly between two tentacles before Illaoi even ulted..
Critmaster Garen3 votes3 tentacles and the damage amplification from test of spirit. the nasus was in the worst spot imaginable.
nasus doesnt need to all in illaoi as far as i understand. someone mentioned he can stack his q on her tentacles, which actually makes him a pretty heavy counter to her.
KVbqbFsC8e2 votesYeah, the problem is you cannot even kill her though if she has her ult, no matter how many stacks you have. I'll always remember the first time I played vs Illiao, I freefarmed off of tentacles had like 450 stacks sheen/frozen heart at 20 mins. Made me believe I could just all in him, but he pops his ult and kills me in like 5 seconds while easily tanking my Q.
Hated that champ ever since, not even mentioning the cancerous minigame it turns the lane into.
Critmaster Garen3 votes[{quoted}](name=The Big Piece,realm=NA,application-id=3ErqAdtq,discussion-id=FcjmF8MH,comment-id=00010000,timestamp=2016-06-20T08:06:08.497+0000)
Yeah, the problem is you cannot even kill her though if she has her ult, no matter how many stacks you have.
why are you trying? you beat her by baiting out the ult and simply walking away. she doesnt have much to fight you without tentacles around, so she cant follow you and beat you.
when the ult runs out, you go back in and take her down. without her ult, 450 stack nasus should be able to beat her.
its most important, that you dont fight her with your spirit out in the open. she essentially deals 200% damage to you during that time if she hits you and your spirit at the same time.
Maximum Zilean3 votesCertified Illaoi player here. A few general tips against lady tentacles.
-DON'T FIGHT NEAR THE TENTACLES. -Illaoi is strong in areas she had time to setup. Bait her away from the zones, or simply wipe out the tentacles beforehand. THEN FIGHT HER. -Bait her ultimate. The range on her idol slam is really short. Nothing is stopping you from walking away and re-engaging 10 seconds later. -If your spirit is broken, don't engage Illaoi, its asking to die. Instead wait it out or kill the tentacles to end it.
Also ranged top laners are the biggest middle finger to her in lane. Since they can safely wipe out the tentacles without effort, and never have to worry about her getting close.
In short, Illaoi is strong in areas where she has under control. Avoid fighting her in tentacle heavy areas. Be smart about your engages against her and you'll be fine. DON'T BLINDLY RUSH HER.
Crossette1 votesAlso a certified Illaoi player here.
Tentacles are everywhere, good luck. Any Illaoi with a brain isn't going to leave her tentacles. You go anywhere near her, she punishes you. Her ult is hard to avoid when it's everywhere. Just script. :^) When her E breaks your spirit, waste 30 seconds missing CS because you can't avoid during AA animations.
I still beat ranged top laners.
I feel sorry for anyone that meets an Illaoi that's using my build.
Rykerano1 votesThank you both for the tips, I'll be sure to let my friend know about these things so that he doesnt get absolutely ruined the next time he goes against her
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Ravenous Howls4 votesAlso a certified Illaoi player here.
Tentacles are everywhere, good luck. Any Illaoi with a brain isn't going to leave her tentacles. You go anywhere near her, she punishes you. Her ult is hard to avoid when it's everywhere. Just script. :^) When her E breaks your spirit, waste 30 seconds missing CS because you can't avoid during AA animations.
I still beat ranged top laners.
I feel sorry for anyone that meets an Illaoi that's using my build.
Your match history has no record of you even playing Illaoi... Unless you have another account that could show your prowess with said champion I reserve judgment.
However as a Nasus and Trundle player I can safely say that Illaoi is rarely a problem. If she ult's I simply leave and wait for it to stop and then go back in and kill her. That said a good Illaoi will give me some trouble but she's far more immobile than Nasus or Trundle because they both have great disengage abilities in wither and pillar.
She's like a tanky version of Heimer. She is a zone control mage but that means her strengths and weaknesses are very polarizing and easy to take advantage of.
Crossette1 voteshttp://prntscr.com/bj49gw They're normals and I haven't been playing as many normal/ranked games lately, but they're all wins.
That's the thing; Nasus is so easy to use against Illaoi because her passive is like buying a ZZ into Nasus, free stacks. Trundle also has bonus resistances and speed buffs in addition to his pillar.
I think an ok Illaoi player such as myself can win 95% of matchups.
Ravenous Howls3 voteshttp://prntscr.com/bj49gw They're normals and I haven't been playing as many normal/ranked games lately, but they're all wins.
That's the thing; Nasus is so easy to use against Illaoi because her passive is like buying a ZZ into Nasus, free stacks. Trundle also has bonus resistances and speed buffs in addition to his pillar.
I think an ok Illaoi player such as myself can win 95% of matchups.
Ranked games don't mean a lot more than normals usually and I am not so snobbish that I can only take a ranked game performance seriously. I was just curious to see your performance across multiple champion match ups. Anyone, who's dedicated time to master a champ, could win most match ups. So I believe you if you are an Illaoi main b/c I main Nasus. I have a 55% win rate with him but if you look at my KDA I very rarely lose my lane even if my team mates do. That is kind of the joy of being a main is that rarely will your opponent be able to best you no matter who they pick.
MoonToonEx2 votesSusan is a nightmare lane for Illaoi soooo this is just a case of a bad doggy who only had a mana thing and boots trying to fight Illaoi in her terf.
That being said, I do feel like it's less-than-true saying that it's easy to counter Illaoi. "Just bait out her ult and walk away lol" welll ... top lane is a special lane. Many people play champs who have to get an early lead to be useful late game which kinda makes them wanna try to kill you ASAP. As long as you chill out til 6 you're likely to put them in the dirt because once they commit not every champ has an escape that gets them away from an Illaoi with a decide item. And a smart Illaoi will hold onto ult until it looks like they're all in without and escape.
I've been playing against Wukongs lately for some reason and it's really a matter of knowing how the champ works. If you know the options a champ has you're likely not gonna blow ult until you're sure it's gonna be good.
zlumpy2 votesShe is literally the definition of a "come at me bro!" type champ. If you fight her where she wants she wins. if you let her control the fight/ map she wins. If you decide to stand next to her as a squishy she wins. All in all you have to exploit her weaknesses. She has terrible map mobility. Her cooldowns aren't the greatest, so if you can bait out a skill shot and she misses jump in. When she jumps in the air to ult you have a few seconds to flash/ mobility move out of it. You can easily win against her if you bring some invuln champs. I seriously doubt a good tryndamere or kayle ult will feel much of the brunt of her attacks. Heck even fizz with a well timed poll can prevent the lions share of her dmg.
edit also as mentioned else where any champ that gains bonuses from killing things/ having things die near them will have a good chance vs Illaoi if played smart.
Lovelle2 votesIt's your own fault for ever trying to fight her. Illaoi is balanced learn2play.
Carnarius1 votesif someone's having problem as nasus against illaoi, then he definitely needs more practice. it's one of the easiest nasus's match ups
DeathBurst1 votesYou fought in the middle of 5 tentacles which hit both you and your spirit. Imagine if Illaoi allowed you to hit 5 free Q on her, would she still be alive?
EWBS Mithilesh1 voteswell you didnt take out her tentacles you left 4 of them just sitting there then you fought her on her territory
Ruin Lance1 voteswow lmao illaoi doing tons of damage to someone who's standing still in her ult and has no armor? what a surprise!!!
thekingofnido1 votesyou have no idea how to play against her that's all. don't say someone is op just because you have 0 clue of how her kit works. learn to counter her not just cry and call her op.
thekingofnido1 votesi pick nasus as a counter to illaoi. just use your q to kill her tentacles free stacks. and then just scale into late game. ez
Iíght1 votesthey need to limit the amount of tentacles she can have up at once. I think no more than 3!
Paquay1 votesHow/why is grave digging a thing?
Inflated Atom1 votesCompletely agree, played a game recently where Illaoi was like 2/7 but the ult still did 1200-1600 damage to everyone on our team in a closing team fight that lost us the game. Too strong, outrageous.
