Place a lock on my rank

ThaPizzaMan··1 votes·818 views

There needs to be a safe lock that locks you into a rank that you peak at so that you might possibly be able to climb higher. I've been promoted and demoted from silver 4 to 5 over 12 times. This is completely ridiculous.. especially when you get a 28 death bot lane on your team. Given the fact that I've promoted myself back to silver 4 over 12 times is incredible and i believe that i deserve to be locked into that rank and not able to fall down to silver 5 again.

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lookbehindyu4 votes

you say you deserve to be locked in silver 4 because you have managed to climb there 12 times?

if we apply the same principle the other way around, you have managed to drop 12 times into silver 5.

not being able to climb because off teammates are bullshit. (atleast in lower elo) i am atm diamond 3.. i managed to climb from bronze 1 to plat 3 without any help and by carrying my bad teammates.. ofc you cant carry efter game, it is just not possible. but if yoy "deserve" to go higher u gotta be able to solo carry.

remember, the enemy team is as bad as your team. so if you are better than team you should be able to carry

Roxfoxriven3 votes

If you were locked in that place, others would want the same treatment. This would also encourage troll behavior due to having no fear of being demoted. If you deserve the rank you'll be wise to maintain it or stop playing ranked.

LuluInWonderland2 votes

That's simply not how an elo-based system (like MMR) works. Just ignore the division....that doesn't really mean anything. It sounds like you're at your current elo. When you improve, your MMR will go up (and the rank will follow).

Riot already made it far easier to go back up a division this season. You only need to win 1 of 2 matches (on your first re-attempt) instead of 2 of 3 like before.

ThaPizzaMan2 votes

Nothing pisses me off more than someone telling me that this is where i deserve to be, it's a team game and when you get a shitty team you can't climb. I do great 80% of the time and i still get demoted. I'm 24 i've played since i was 17 I should be in high gold.

LuluInWonderland1 votes

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Nothing pisses me off more than someone telling me that this is where i deserve to be, it's a team game and when you get a shitty team you can't climb. I do great 80% of the time and i still get demoted. I'm 24 i've played since i was 17 I should be in high gold.

Well, too bad but it's true. I checked your match history and you carry in some matches and feed in others. Nothing points at you deserving to be any higher than where you're at. You can't carry every match, but put a mid gold in a low silver elo match and he will carry far more often than not...even from support. I main support and put me in a match with low silvers and we will will win far more often than not (and I'm not high elo).

The enemy team has afkers, feeders, and bad players just as often as your team. The only thing in common every match is you, and that's the only thing you can change.

You don't deserve any elo except the one you are at right now. You've played 732 ranked matches this season alone with an exact 50% win rate. The system is working exactly as designed.

ThaPizzaMan1 votes

Dude you aren't even ranked why are you putting your 2 cents in.

LuluInWonderland1 votes

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Dude you aren't even ranked why are you putting your 2 cents in.

Didn't realize being ranked was a requirement for having an opinion and explaining why you are your rank.

ThaPizzaMan1 votes

It is because unless you have played this season you have no idea what kind of shit you have to deal with. http://i.imgur.com/2Ry5vUI.jpg?1

LuluInWonderland1 votes

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It is because unless you have played this season you have no idea what kind of shit you have to deal with. http://i.imgur.com/2Ry5vUI.jpg?1

Because I've played the game this season? Ranked is the same as normals except...not fun (well...even less fun nowadays). Normals have MMR as well, although it is sometimes skewed by people they play a few normals but mostly ranked. Overall the matches are basically the same and my matches have similarly skilled opponents on average. Check my match history (minus the last ~15 matches or so which are our 4-5 man queue of friends) if you want to verify. I've played plenty of matches this season and have a pretty well determined MMR at this point.

Congrats....you played an assassin and got fed for mid game but couldn't carry late game? That's...normal. If you can't carry to a win in mid game, then you're going to fall off quickly late game. They had a late game comp (except ez) - your team had an early game comp (minus jinx). Your lane opponent was roughly as fed as you but is stronger late game (and had over 5k gold on you). Oh, and your farm... notice that you have the least gold on the team (even less than your support)? The only player with less gold than you was the other team's support. Actually....after the 46th minute, I don't see you having any presence in the game. While that may be one of your stronger matches, it certainly doesn't justify that you should have won.

I watched your fid match just now. You did fine in lane but made some pretty shoddy calls late game to try to force plays (i.e. your next to last ult into 4 champs with only you and one teammate there). It looked like frustration-induced plays tbh. The other team did the same (i.e. pushing too hard to try to force objectives they had no chance of getting) and they loss because of it. In this case, It's not a matter of "x" should have won as it is "x" did win because they capitalized on the mistakes better.

Wolfess2 votes

sadly this games ranking system doesn't accurately represent a player's skill level because your own playing ability is mixed in with the ability of 4 other random people who can, in fact, be either much better than you, about the same as you, or much worse than you, and therefore extremely often causes outliers in the data.

Would be much better if people gained/lost LP and climbed/fell depending on their grade after the game (S, A, B, C, etc) so if someone played well they could actually gain LP even if they lost, or lose LP even if they won based on their individual performance. Of course, it would require a slight tune to the grading to be a bit stricter but that would allow it to better judge how well you're CSing, warding, clearing wards, going for objectives, laning, and team-fighting to weigh your performance as a player and not as part of a team's mixed data.

LuluInWonderland1 votes

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sadly this games ranking system doesn't accurately represent a player's skill level because your own playing ability is mixed in with the ability of 4 other random people who can, in fact, be either much better than you, about the same as you, or much worse than you, and therefore extremely often causes outliers in the data.

Would be much better if people gained/lost LP and climbed/fell depending on their grade after the game (S, A, B, C, etc) so if someone played well they could actually gain LP even if they lost, or lose LP even if they won based on their individual performance. Of course, it would require a slight tune to the grading to be a bit stricter but that would allow it to better judge how well you're CSing, warding, clearing wards, going for objectives, laning, and team-fighting to weigh your performance as a player and not as part of a team's mixed data.

Unfortunately, if all you look at are grades, then the system can be heavily gamed. AFK farmers can get B/A/S rank fairly easy just from CS and picking off a few kills while otherwise being useless to the team. That's not skill, and there's not really a way to (reliably) distinguish a good team player vs a split pusher vs an afk farmer. It's just completely abusable to look at metrics instead of results because people will focus on the metrics instead of actually trying to win the game.

That said, my (long standing) suggestion has been to permit players to nominate a player on the team and if they get enough votes from both teams (ignoring players queued with the player), then they get the LP refunded or bonus LP. It won't work on every match, but that awesome [x] that outplayed your whole team all game can get a little boost for playing far above their elo that match. It also discourages negativity because nobody's going to vote in favor of the enemy's @#$% spamming masteries and saying "gg ez" or whatever else.

5050BS2 votes

My rank setting 10 matches was

7/3

the losses was because of afkers/feeders, one of my wins was because enemy had a afker.

Ranked should be more then getting X champs and lvl 30

You should have to have no afks and X team work badges.

Aptest2 votes

if you cannot lose rank, rank has no meaning. it just becomes another shit "I played a lot" achievement

rank having meaning requires that you should be able to lose it as fast as you can gain it.

RcGjWO640w1 votes

Doesn't sound like a problem where you need to be locked, just that your current skill level is right on the edge of Silver 4 and 5, meaning you're likely to bounce between the two until you get better and hang more in Silver 4.

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