RIot will never learn (New jungle Changes suck)

Platinum Courage·1/16/2019, 12:44:12 AM·5 votes·2,624 views

lets start with this

(Level 2 ganks? We're seeing a range of viable junglers at all MMRs, some of whom have strong level 2 gank patterns, some of whom don't. There are certainly some champs that do feel out of line at level 2 and we're looking at their jungling power as a result (e.g. Camille and Xin). We believe the issue here's individual problem cases, rather than early ganks being a possibility.)

Riot have you look at the top tire junglers? Its all lvl 2 jg. junglers take red then gank or do Red ,Crugs then gank. I dont understand why you believe level 2 gankers are not strong.

Im gold and i can tell you. if you dont get red then gank you are at a high chance of losing. now you are planing to nerf Exp in the jg again . let me tell you something as a jg main we are already not rewarded for power farming that is why level 2 ganks are so good. you have to gank gank gank and gank if you want to be useful. You believe other jungles " feel out of line at level 2" so you nerfing the jungle how will that help tank or level 6 gank jungle. this change will not help or change the meta. level 2 gank jungle will still be top tire but now they will be extremely behind in level and damage after these changes.

After these changes if you fall behind has a Jungler you will be 100% useless. the jungle the gets ahead first will invade you and steal all you camp. and if you manage to get a few camps you still wont be able to catch up in levels because jungle will give so little exp. How will jungle be able to help lanes if we cant even keep up in level or damage.

How many time are you guys going to kill jungle. laners just need to learn to ward. if you ward and dont play pushed up early you cant die to level to ganks.

some link to show how laner dont like to ward. all game like are 30+ min. Most players in Gold dont place more then 5 wards in a 30 min game http://prntscr.com/m7qr1v http://prntscr.com/m7qqhw http://prntscr.com/m833tm http://prntscr.com/m8349v in this one I the ADC and a higher ward score then enemy support PLease need to ward more thats all

I am a nocture main but after these changes I feel like picking Noc would be the same as trolling

12 Comments

Hexs Fortune1/16/2019, 12:47:53 AM2 votes

At the very least they've identified that jungles have too much influence and are actively trying to reduce their power.

Hopefully we can stop saying "better jungler wins" in 2019

VivaLaKitten1/16/2019, 3:40:04 AM2 votes

its probably to keep people from having fun- I mean "trolling" and going Nautilus, Kog Maw, or Amumu jg ya know champs who need every advantage they can get early on

wildfox9T1/16/2019, 11:55:10 AM1 votes

How many time are you guys going to kill jungle. laners just need to learn to ward. if you ward and dont play pushed up early you cant die to level to ganks.

i agree with the rest,but allow me to say that you're totally wrong here

as laner you can't keep your lane always warded with all the tools for removing your vision around here (or just the enemy laner pinging where you warded) and especially mid where you can get ganked from 9 different places,then if we talk about early ganks you only have 1 ward

even if you have vision there are junglers that will get you even if you see them comming (ie. Camille with her E + summoner 4),and even if we assume you avoid every single gank you're still losing your lane

getting ganked means using resources (HP/mana/your main abilities),putting you in disevantage getting a lot of pressure can kill you even if the jungler doesn't directly take the assist (enemy laner will be free to trade you and play aggressive while you can't fight back,also you are farming under your tower and backing often losing a lot of farm and falling behind as gold and XP)

jungle IS an issue,they just picked the wrong way to solve it